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Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester

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What is this discussion about? Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Car Comparisons, SUV

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#752 of 1581 Re: Outlander vs. aftermarket accessories [ateixeira] by chelentano

Nov 19, 2009 (10:05 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 19, 2009 8:22 pm)
>> But why did you feel the need to lie about the capacity and capabilities? 6 Gigs is not even close to 30 Gigs, nor is 9 close to 40. Why embellish?
 
We’ve never got into details about HD memory allocation for different functions. Please point to my post were I “lie”. “40GB HDD digital music server” or “30GB hard-drive-based music server” with several variations, that what it’s called in many online sources:
http://www.cars.com/go/crp/research.jsp?section=optionsAndExtras&makeid=34&model- - id=6708&year=2009&myid=10689&acode=USB90MIS032C0&mode=&aff=national
 
http://www.thecarconnection.com/bottomline/mitsubishi_outlander_2008
 
Your Forester is using only 4.7 Gb DVD for maps. Do you really what to get into conversation about Outlander music server capabilities not knowing once again what you are talking about?
 
  
  
>> Source for the claim that the Forester IIHS crash tested did not have a moonroof, please?
 
The IIHS site states that tests conducted on cars with typical equipment. Large panoramic sun roof is not typical, it’s a $1000 option. Good luck rolling over on that large glass sun roof though.

#753 of 1581 Re: I hate to interrupt.... [tazzi] by comem47

Nov 19, 2009 (11:09 pm)

Replying to: tazzi (Nov 19, 2009 6:55 pm)
Yes, the newer Equinox looks interesting and MPG looks great. Back in 2007 the Equinox was a different beast altogether and was quickly ruled out. As much as I love my Outlander I have no preconceived allegiance and would have to give this a serious look if I were shopping now(my wife has a 2006 Malibu Maxx V6 that has treated her real well with great MPGs) Chevy has also caught up on the warranty thing with the Outlander for a few years now. (the 100k part, not "or 10 years part")

#754 of 1581 Mitsu videos demonstrate S-AWC v. 4WD by fushigi

Nov 20, 2009 (6:51 am)

Being from the manufacturer it can be considered propaganda, but I find them interesting. As I wouldn't be off-roading (intentionally), I was mostly impressed with the ice video. That is applicable to road conditions that can happen on occasion here in Chicagoland.
 
Ice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b203wKwGrYA&feature=PlayList&p=50AC73FE9DBAA271&i- ndex=1
Offroad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmpT9q8puyI&feature=PlayList&p=50AC73FE9DBAA271&i- ndex=0
 
As the comparison is against 4WD and not AWD this is probably more valuable for comparing the Outlander v. the RAV4 since the Foreester has an AWD system.
 
I also found it interesting that the Outie they used appeared to have normal tires and not snow tires or anything specific for off-road conditions.

#755 of 1581 Re: Outlander vs. aftermarket accessories [chelentano] by ateixeira

Nov 20, 2009 (8:11 am)

Replying to: chelentano (Nov 19, 2009 10:05 pm)
Please point to my post were I “lie”. “40GB HDD digital music server” or “30GB hard-drive-based music server”
 
Sure.
 
More than once:
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f185114/705!keywords=allin%3Amsgte- - xt%20limit%3A.f185114%20music%20server#MSG705
 
"voice activated 40GB music server"
 
and here:
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f185114/637!keywords=allin%3Amsgte- - xt%20limit%3A.f185114%20music%20server#MSG637
 
"40 GB music server"
 
and here you didn't mention it can't copy MP3s:
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f185114/15!keywords=allin%3Amsgtex- - t%20limit%3A.f185114%20music%20server#MSG15
 
"build-in MP3 music server"
 
I bet you wish Edmunds let you edit those right about now.

#756 of 1581 Re: Outlander vs. aftermarket accessories [chelentano] by ateixeira

Nov 20, 2009 (8:14 am)

Replying to: chelentano (Nov 19, 2009 10:05 pm)
Your Forester is using only 4.7 Gb DVD for maps
 
That's wrong, but I'm going to let you figure out why that's incorrect.

#757 of 1581 Re: Outlander vs. aftermarket accessories [chelentano] by ateixeira

Nov 20, 2009 (8:21 am)

Replying to: chelentano (Nov 19, 2009 10:05 pm)
The IIHS site states that tests conducted on cars with typical equipment
 
The moonroof is typical equipment.
 
   Models without moonroof: X base.
 
   Models withmoonroof: X Premium, X Limited, XT, and XT Limited.
 
4 out of 5 models have it, including the best-selling model.
 
So if IIHS tests a typical Forester, than means they tested WITH a moonroof.
 
it’s a $1000 option
 
Nope, it's not an option, it's standard in all 4 of those models. In fact it is not sold seperately in any model.

#758 of 1581 Forester offers Parking Sensors by ateixeira

Nov 20, 2009 (8:33 am)

They are available on any Forester model, have been since 12/08, BTW.
 
Source: cars101.com.
 
Twice chelentano implied they were not, messages #741 and #746.
 
Visibility is good enough that they're not necessary, IMHO.

#759 of 1581 Forester offers XM or Sirius satellite radio by ateixeira

Nov 20, 2009 (8:38 am)

To clarify once again, you can get satellite radio on a Forester, It's not installed by the dealer, and there is no labor charge for any of these 4 order codes.
 
For XM 2 ways to get it:
 
Popular Equipment Grp 6A, #F9M order code.
or a-la-carte, #D9D order code
 
For Sirius two ways to get it:
 
Popular Equipment Grp 6B, #F9N order code
or a-la-carte, #D9C order code
 
So there are plenty of ways to get satellite radio, but I'd still rather see HD Radio, because it's free!

#760 of 1581 Re: Mitsu videos demonstrate S-AWC v. 4WD [fushigi] by ateixeira

Nov 20, 2009 (9:03 am)

Replying to: fushigi (Nov 20, 2009 6:51 am)
Interesting ice video.
 
No surprise about all the wheel slip in the first one, with traction control off. Fun maybe, but not safe.
 
Is the 2nd one the old AWC model, minus the S for Super? It allowed a lot of wheelslip. Is the the old 4WD lock mode? Or AWC without the "Super" part?
 
S-AWC on the 2010 does it with much less drama and a lot more control. There's only slip when the driver guns it.
 
Reminds me of the videos Subaru came out with in 2006, showing their cars climbing those ramps with rollers. The Subarus also demonstrated very little wheelspin. Systems from Honda, Toyota, and VW struggled.

#761 of 1581 Re: I hate to interrupt.... [tazzi] by steve_ HOST

Nov 20, 2009 (9:31 am)

Replying to: tazzi (Nov 19, 2009 6:55 pm)
In terms of cost to own, Subarus are selling "well" in this current market. No one else really is, except Hyundai. Subie sales were up 41% last month. Mitsubishi sales dropped 48%.
 
So the Mitsu dealer may be more willing to deal than your local Subie dealer. Especially on a Forester or an Outback, since the redesigns for those two have been a big success for Subaru. But TMV for both the Forester and the Outlander is running about $500 above invoice on a mid-level trim without options. More like $700 over for the Equinox.
 
Novembers typically are lousy months for car dealers and this November is especially bad, so if you are ready to buy "today" you can probably swing a good deal anywhere.

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