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Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester

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What is this discussion about? Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Car Comparisons, SUV

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#678 of 1581 Re: Chase Freedom Rewards [chelentano] by daniell

Nov 14, 2009 (5:58 pm)

Replying to: chelentano (Nov 14, 2009 5:25 pm)
" The Subaru Rewards card has $500 a year cap"
 
True, but you can get 2 Subaru Rewards cards, like I did. I own a 2002 Forester, and so far I have paid everything - maintenance and repairs (bills over $100), using Subaru bucks. You get $100 rewards as soon as they accumulate, which for me is every 5-6 weeks. The $100 Subaru bucks certificates have a 4 year expiration date - but you can use them right away. I will soon buy new tires, and pay using Subaru bucks. So if you already own a Subaru, this card is a no brainer.
 
That said, I agree that the Outlander is a thoroughly modern, reliable, competitive vehicle in this class

#679 of 1581 Re: Chase Freedom Rewards [chelentano] by ateixeira

Nov 14, 2009 (8:29 pm)

Replying to: chelentano (Nov 14, 2009 5:25 pm)
Why didn't you reveal the $18 monthly cap earlier when you recommended the card, though? That was misleading.
 
As daniel mentioned you can use Subaru Bucks to pay for tires, or service, body shop work, and even accessories. Subaru sells the whole Yakima catalog basically, so you never run out of things to buy, and it's an effective way of lowering TCO.
 
It is not like the Ford and GM cards, where you were forced to buy a car of that brand way out in the future. It is an excellent program.

#680 of 1581 Re: No luck.... [steve_] by ateixeira

Nov 14, 2009 (8:38 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 14, 2009 9:31 am)
Perhaps we can get back to comparing the rest of the features of the cars now?
 
Sure, steve. I know this hasn't been an easy thread to moderate, and I'm sorry about that.

#681 of 1581 Re: Chase Freedom Rewards [daniell] by occking

Nov 14, 2009 (8:39 pm)

Replying to: daniell (Nov 14, 2009 5:58 pm)
You guys may not believe me, but I have 4 Subaru Chase Cards & max all four of them out every year. Already this year I have maxed out two of them, by my next statement the 3rd will be full and already working on my 4th. I believe since Jan 2005 I have earned over $5000 in bucks.
 
I have used them a few times while purchasing vehicles (had a 2005 Outback, 2006 Tribeca, now have had 2009 Forster since March this year (21,000 miles on now) and have already used four of them on service for the vehicle and by next week will have accumulated seven on them.
 
Obviously, have not spent anything on service over the years (except I am not dumb enough to use them on small purchases like oil changes, etc.)
 
My biggest problem is remembering to switch one one card to another as I reach the $500 limit allowed for each year. Also have Sears Master Card for wife & I that pays 5% cash rebate for supermarkets, drug stores and gas stations. But the maximum rebate per year for this items is $300 and I usually fill that by September (so have to take that card from wify) Also, have Mobil Card for gas that gives 15 cents off per gallon, so that is the best deal around as long as gas remains less than $3 bucks per gallon.
 
Even my dealer (Mastria, in Raynham, MA) calls me the Subaru Bucks King! Never have they seen anyone redeem so many of these.
 
It's not that I am very wealthy, or have an extravagant life style. Many of the charges on my card are business related and I get that money back.

#682 of 1581 Can we talk about the CARS???? by godeacs

Nov 14, 2009 (9:40 pm)

Very impressive - must be a lot of fun shuffling cards...
 
Now, like the moderator asked, can we get back to comparing the cars instead of bragging about accruing points???...
 
Thank you.

#683 of 1581 Re: Chase Freedom Rewards [ateixeira] by chelentano

Nov 14, 2009 (10:14 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 14, 2009 8:29 pm)
>> Why didn't you reveal the $18 monthly cap earlier when you recommended the card, though? That was misleading.
  
I have not read all the "fine print" at that time, but does not say anywhere, even in a fine print that there is a "$18 monthly cap": it's your own calculations.
 
And since you've read all the "fine print", why didn't you reveal that there is no cap on 1% purchases, and there is up to 20% cash back with no cap limit on select merchant purchases? That was misleading.
 
The most misleading statement was, however, that "Both Outlander and Caliber/Compass are supplied the same AWD system from Borg Warner".

#684 of 1581 Re: Chase Freedom Rewards [occking] by ateixeira

Nov 14, 2009 (10:25 pm)

Replying to: occking (Nov 14, 2009 8:39 pm)
I have earned over $5000 in bucks
 
You win, that's sch-weet.
 
godeacs: keeping this in context, reducing the TCO of the Forester is relevant.

#685 of 1581 Re: Chase Freedom Rewards [chelentano] by ateixeira

Nov 14, 2009 (10:33 pm)

Replying to: chelentano (Nov 14, 2009 10:14 pm)
That was your card, you recommended it. So I went and wasted time researching it, and found that you only get 3% back on the first $600 in purchases (also it's limited to 3 categories). 600 x 0.03 = $18 per month.
 
I don't think it's my job to explain that card, and I'm sure there is more fine print when it comes to the merchants you mentioned (2 to 20% is a HUGE variance for starters). I shop costco.com, Trader Joe's, WalMart, etc. and I don't see any of those on your list. It may be useful to you if you meet the store and item category restrictions, but I don't see the freedom in all those restrictions.
 
Subaru's card is simple - earn 3% til you have $500, then switch cards. Any merchant. That's nearly $17 grand of spending for one card and everything counts, any item from any store.

#686 of 1581 Re: Chase Freedom Rewards [chelentano] by ateixeira

Nov 14, 2009 (10:48 pm)

Replying to: chelentano (Nov 14, 2009 5:25 pm)
forced to buy Subaru with its dated 4-speed transmission again
 
Mitsu got their CVT first, kudos, Subaru's is due out soon. Slushboxes are indeed dated - even with gimmicky manual shift modes.
 
Remember they offer a stick shift, though.
 
But keep in mind our tried-and-true Forester is on CR's most reliable list, and Mitsubishi, while deserving credit for getting their CVT to market, dropped out of that reliable list.
 
In fact Mitsu is notably absent - they did not have a single car out of the 48 most reliable per CR.
 
Mitsu sales are down, what, 48%? Subaru's sales are up.
 
Since you've gone on this tirade against the Forester, sales have basically experienced a meteoric rise. Even comparing the 2010 to the then-brand-new-2009 model, sales are still up. 2009 was way up from 2008. People obviously care about the resulting performance, not the number of gears in a transmission.
 
Does that work on the ladies? "My car may be slower, but I have more gear ratios." So smooth.
 
The Forester is leaner, meaner, greener, safer, and costs less to own.
 
Outlander does deserve credit for pioneering many firsts in the segment, a risk that unfortunately did not pay off in sales. People don't shop for spec sheets or options lists the way you do, they take test drives and buy the vehicle that brings a smile to their face.
 
Accolades from the press reaffirm their decisions, and sales keep rising.

#687 of 1581 Re: Can we talk about the CARS???? [godeacs] by fushigi

Nov 15, 2009 (9:32 am)

Replying to: godeacs (Nov 14, 2009 9:40 pm)
Yes, lets.
 
Mitsu has updated their site with the official 2010 Outlander specs. http://www.mitsubishicars.com/MMNA/jsp/outlander/10/index.do?loc=en-us
 
To settle one earlier discussion point, Mitsu makes no mention of there being a premium fuel requirement for the 2010 Outlander V6. I compared against the Lancer Ralliart, which does require premium, and the Lancer specs page does note that difference.

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