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#652 of 794 Re: wow [comem47] by ateixeira Nov 06, 2009 (7:42 am)
Replying to: comem47 (Nov 06, 2009 7:33 am) The posts were moved from another thread.   It all started when the OP asked about the Forester and Santa Fe ... I have no idea why the Outlander even became part of the conversation. It was a major detour.   Now at least it's in the right thread. Replies to this message: steve_ (Nov 06, 2009 9:51 am)
#653 of 794 Re: wow [ateixeira] by steve_ HOST Nov 06, 2009 (9:51 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 06, 2009 7:42 am) The Outlander was part of the conversation because it's a direct competitor to the Forester and the rest of them in the Crossover SUV Comparison discussion. It did get a bit two-sided there though.   It was more like Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra to me, Comem47.
#654 of 794 Re: Advantages only count when it helps Mitsubishi [ateixeira] by chelentano Nov 09, 2009 (12:58 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 05, 2009 2:34 pm) Oh no, I did not say that about iPod.   You however said that "Both Outlander and Caliber/Compass are supplied the same AWD system from Borg Warner", but you still did not provide any info. The link you posted has no mention of Outlander. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Nov 09, 2009 1:09 pm) chelentano (Nov 09, 2009 1:35 pm) ateixeira (Nov 09, 2009 1:51 pm) and 1 more...
#655 of 794 Re: Advantages only count when it helps Mitsubishi [chelentano] by ateixeira Nov 09, 2009 (1:09 pm)
Replying to: chelentano (Nov 09, 2009 12:58 pm) It's a joint venture, and it's not like Chrysler is going to say "we used a Mitsubishi engine" or Hyundai is going to say "we sourced a shared Borg Warner AWD system" or Mitsu will say "we all sourced the CVT from JATCO".   Instead each will put their own tag on it, trying to brand it as their own, hiding the origin of those components. Replies to this message: chelentano (Nov 09, 2009 1:35 pm) ateixeira (Nov 09, 2009 1:51 pm) chelentano (Nov 09, 2009 3:03 pm)
#656 of 794 Re: Advantages only count when it helps Mitsubishi [ateixeira] by chelentano Nov 09, 2009 (1:35 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 09, 2009 1:09 pm) >> It's a joint venture, and it's not like Chrysler is going to say "we used a Mitsubishi engine" or Hyundai is going to say "we sourced a shared Borg Warner AWD system" or Mitsu will say "we all sourced the CVT from JATCO".   . Oh, I see, so you don't have any proof. You just made an assumption, but presented this as fact that all 3 cars "are supplied the same AWD system from Borg Warner"! Why would you do that?   Do you have at least a link which would confirm that 2007 or 2010 generation of Outlander is a part of a "joint venture" with Chrysler? Replies to this message: ateixeira (Nov 09, 2009 1:51 pm) chelentano (Nov 09, 2009 3:03 pm)
#657 of 794 Re: Advantages only count when it helps Mitsubishi [chelentano] by ateixeira Nov 09, 2009 (1:51 pm)
Replying to: chelentano (Nov 09, 2009 1:35 pm) Joint ventures make sense because economies of scale allow each of the 3 to share costs. They used a Mitsu engine, a Borg Warner AWD system, and a CVT supplied by JATCO. It's cost-efficient.   If you'd like to believe something else, that's fine with me. Replies to this message: chelentano (Nov 09, 2009 3:03 pm)
#658 of 794 Re: Advantages only count when it helps Mitsubishi [ateixeira] by chelentano Nov 09, 2009 (3:03 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 09, 2009 1:51 pm) >> Joint ventures make sense because economies of scale allow each of the 3 to share costs. They used a Mitsu engine, a Borg Warner AWD system, and a CVT supplied by JATCO. It's cost-efficient.  If you'd like to believe something else, that's fine with me.   Wow, "Joint ventures make sense", that's good to know. It is also good to know that you don't have any evidence but you "believe" that "Both Outlander and Caliber/Compass are supplied the same AWD system from Borg Warner." But why would you want everybody else to "believe" in that? Hey, be a man and admit that you made it up.
#659 of 794 Hello, hello by tidester HOST Nov 09, 2009 (11:25 pm)
You say yes, he says no He says stop and you say go, go, go Oh, no!   Hey, guys, this bickering is becoming distracting. Can we let it go?   tidester, host SUVs and Smart Shopper Replies to this message: comem47 (Nov 10, 2009 4:33 am) ateixeira (Nov 10, 2009 9:33 am) chelentano (Nov 10, 2009 12:41 pm) tidester (Nov 10, 2009 3:57 pm) ateixeira (Nov 11, 2009 8:36 am)
#660 of 794 Re: Hello, hello [tidester] by comem47 Nov 10, 2009 (4:33 am)
Replying to: tidester (Nov 09, 2009 11:25 pm) Just like the republicans vs democrats always trying to score one for their side vs doing the people's business, in this case they are not bringing something meaningful to the table, only trying to score points. Meanwhile the country is in meltdown.
#661 of 794 Re: Hello, hello [tidester] by ateixeira Nov 10, 2009 (9:33 am)
Replying to: tidester (Nov 09, 2009 11:25 pm) You got it.

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