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SUVs Mitsubishi Outlander Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester
658 messages, Last post on Nov 09, 2009 at 3:03 PM
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I have an 07 Outlander and an 09 llbean forester. My wife drives the forester most of the time,but I just dove it about 800 mile trip and have done so with the Outlander. I will give a list of likes of one over the other.First let me say I am a fan of both vehicles and companies.This our third subaru and my first outlander. This list will be lengthy so I will continue to update it for a while as the differences come to me. The outlander wins in the power department it is the v6 the ll bean is the2.5 4 non turbo. Although the forester was not weak in power It cannot compare the the outlander,when passing or climbing hills the outlander does it with ease and plenty of power.the subie takes a while to pass and shifts way down to get some large hills the tach will hit about 5k while the outlander might not have to downshift or if it does it might go to 5th gear maybe 2.8 k I am shure it does not hurt the subie but I dont like It. The subie corners much better I don't know how they do it but they always amaze me how flat they stay when hard cornering. mpg--the subie does better in city driving but highway they are about the same. I think subies have to have about 15 thousand miles on them before they get their best mileage. so I would it expect it to average about 29 highway this trip it got 27. Thats about my outlander does now It has 17,000 the subie has 4,500. Thats all for now I will try to give more details tommrow. I have many more. |
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Why do I title this by that? Its quite simple. I owned a 08 forester not too long ago and then, through some blundering and floundering [which I wont go into, its a long story], I finally got it sorted out to where I got a Nissan Rogue. I went for a 2wd sl [when I should've gotten that blue awd sl that had less options, sunroof was important]. I disliked the Forester for the roadnoise, I'd like to hear my music not the engine/road thanks, the lack of a tilt function for the sunroof, and the missing 5th gear. While the Forester really was a good rig, there were issues with the center console and my knee. Fastforward to the Rogue. Perfect mirror placement, I have larger blindspot mirrors and the mirrors turned outward 10 degrees and takes care of the blindspots. I prefer to think of the larger D pillar as a safety promotion issue for when changing lanes or passing. The outlander I havent even test drove yet, but I do like the features they have on their offerings, and at least they have a cvt. Speaking of cvts, Nissan has got those down pretty well. Something Subaru US should pay attention to... Really? 4 speed autos in this day and age? cvts are far more efficient and are on demand power instantly. I would like to say that first time I had a cvt it was in a ford freestyle, and going from that to the forester was a bit disconcerting. I've test driven the Altima, sentra and Rogue and also the 09 forester twice. I just really enjoy both legroom and headroom with the Nissans. I have far more to say, but I'll end here for now.
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Replying to: dcwestby (Jun 27, 2008 7:28 am) |
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Replying to: dcwestby (Jun 27, 2008 7:28 am) CR just rated all 3 of these (Forester XT and X, Mitsu Outlander 2.4l, Rogue) and rated the Subie on top. The Rogue did stand out among base 4 cylinder models for its acceleration.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 30, 2008 7:50 am) Majority of Foresters (which are equipped with 4-speed auto transmission) are also a FWD biased with on-demand torque to rear wheals. Only a manual transmission based Forester has real full time AWD. Hyundai has a decent Borg Warner based AWD system: it uses Multi-plate clutch coupling - which is also installed on Porsche 911. Borg Warner system can provide up to 95% of the torque to the front wheels, but automatically diverts up to 50% of the torque to the rear wheels when needed. In addition, Hyundai has optional button to lock the clutch providing permanent 50% torque to the rear wheels. 4EAT equipped Forester can't do it.
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Replying to: chelentano (Oct 26, 2009 9:21 pm) Not too long ago the 911 Turbo employed a viscous coupling like Subaru's MT system. In fact, with a boxer engine, a Subaru is more or less like a 911 driven backwards.  Automatic Foresters still always send some power to the rear axles (10 or 20%, depending on who you ask), unless you insert a FWD fuse (meant for being towed or for when you get a flat tire). So it is full time, then adjusts constantly as needs change. Watch this video below to see just how well it works, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yp1PkXizeQ The 09 pretty much owns the 07, despite the 07 being a turbo with much more torque. The 09 has better ground clearance and a better tuned traction control system. Why? You have to look at the whole vehicle - ground clearance, angles of approach and departure, breakover angle, even tires. The 09 Forester does well as a package, incredibly so for a unibody sans low range. There were no changes to the AWD system from that 07 to that 09 yet the new model does substantially better.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 27, 2009 7:34 am) Maybe I missed something! 
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Replying to: kipk (Oct 27, 2009 7:53 am) The 09's traction control system also allowed less wheel spin, the effort to get moving is always more controlled. This is far more than 99.9% of owners will ever subject them to. |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 27, 2009 7:34 am) The same type and the same brand. Porsche 911 and Santa Fe both use the ITM 3e multi-plate clutch coupling system from Borg Warner. . >> Automatic Foresters still always send some power to the rear axles (10 or 20%, depending on who you ask), unless you insert a FWD fuse If you ask Subaru's Corporate Communications Director Mike McHale, it's 10%. Santa Fe's number is no mystery: it can lock 50% of consistent power to the rear axles. Inserting a fuse is as high tech as Forester's 4-speed transmission  Do you have to run to RadioShack to get the fuse? I would be careful continuously running Forester with the fuse for long time: it may burn out the solenoid.
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Replying to: chelentano (Oct 27, 2009 6:14 pm) Note that the Compass is the only Jeep that's not Trail Rated. I'm sure any systems they supply to Porsche would meet very different duty requirements.
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