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Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester

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What is this discussion about? Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: What sets it apart? [biscuit_xls] by kdshapiro
May 17, 2008 (4:14 am)
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Replying to: biscuit_xls (May 16, 2008 11:34 pm)

36.1 per cent increase in output (17,243 units) for export shipment of the new Outlander
 
Back here on earth, what does this have to with anything? For all I know, the compeition increased 50% in output, leaving the Outlander in the dust. You're better off sticking to discussing AWD nuances.
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Re: What sets it apart? [psychogun] by biscuit_xls
May 17, 2008 (4:56 am)
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Replying to: psychogun (May 16, 2008 8:40 pm)

It was a reply to this statement: Demand for the Outlander has softened considerably since the end of '07
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Re: .. [rcpax] by bigmclargehuge
May 17, 2008 (4:59 am)
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Replying to: rcpax (May 16, 2008 11:42 pm)

If Outlander is a "boring" SUV, I don't think Peugeot and Citroen will want to rebadge it under their own brand.
 
Right... because Peugeot and Citroen don't have any boring econoboxes at all...
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Sales, resale by ateixeira
May 17, 2008 (5:06 am)
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Blitz wrote:
 
If Outlander had a Honda badge on it and Forester a Toyota you can be more than sure that the sales would have been in a lot of thousands per month
 
I don't think anyone will argue with that.
 
But...the fact is, Honda and Toyota earned that rep.
 
gun wrote:
 
there is a chance demand for the new Forester may soften
 
Yes and no - fewer people will move up from compact sedans, but more people may downsize from an SUV. With 20/26 mpg stamped on the Monroney, that won't scare people away.
 
It could hurt turbo sales but most of the volume is the base engine.
 
How's the sales split with the Outlander, V6 vs. I4, I wonder? I bet the diesel represents a lot of those overseas sales.
 
In the US, I think sales are softer. I found 7 left over 2007 models when I went on my test drive. That's not good.
 
I'm sure the incentive will clear them out soon, but incentives erode residuals, which were already not as good as the Forester's per ALG.
 
For someone who keeps their cars forever, that may not matter. You may be upside down on a loan for a while if you took one, but unless it's totalled or you have to sell it early for unforeseen reaons, no biggie.
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Re: Sales, resale [ateixeira] by rcpax
May 17, 2008 (5:42 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 17, 2008 5:06 am)

But...the fact is, Honda and Toyota earned that rep.
 
And also true, a lot of people buy the brand rather than value for money, but as we know, these trusted brand vehicles are not without problems. So they are not superior by default.
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Re: Sales, resale [ateixeira] by rcpax
May 17, 2008 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 17, 2008 5:06 am)

In the US, I think sales are softer. I found 7 left over 2007 models when I went on my test drive. That's not good.
 
Can you remember the trims on those vehicles? The Outlander sells well on a particular trim than others. Back in 06, XLS was in hot demand, leaving the ES and LS on the lot.
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Re: .. [rcpax] by bigmclargehuge
May 17, 2008 (5:49 am)
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You throw a temper tantrum over someone making a crack at French brands and call me childish? Thats some fuzzy logic.
 
I think the Pigeon and the are French econoboxes, so if thats how Mitubishi can reflect their brand, you go ahead and proudly wave that flag.
 
Don't take it personally.
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Re: Sales, resale [rcpax] by kdshapiro
May 17, 2008 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: rcpax (May 17, 2008 5:42 am)

So they are not superior by default
 
What these brands have earned is a reputation for reliability, good cars and good customer service (and yes, before we go there, there are always a bunch of complainers who can never be satisified). No brand is without issues, and Mitsubishi convering up issues for 22 years is the head of the pack. People who want to buy any car, know it's a crapshoot as to whether the car *you* get is going to be a good experience. However, with a Honda or Toyotota the odds are in your favor.
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Re: Sales, resale [rcpax] by ateixeira
May 17, 2008 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: rcpax (May 17, 2008 5:44 am)

I think most were XLS actually.
 
You can check on fitzmall.com, they list the current inventory on-line.
 
They probably sold a few by now with the incentives.
 
Rockville Mitsu had a 2007 in the showroom and it was also an XLS. I test drove a 4 cylinder base model though.

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