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#567 of 799 Re: What sets it apart? [ateixeira] by blitzkrieg79 May 16, 2008 (5:27 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (May 16, 2008 4:37 pm) Instead of percentages I would like to know how many Foresters Subie sold this month last year compare to this month. Reality is that Mitsu and Subaru are small players. Marketing/PR teams suck big time for both companies here in USA, reality is that they offer the same quality products such as Honda or Toyota but because of bad marketing no one notices them. If Outlander had a Honda badge on it and FOrester a Toyota you can be more than sure that the sales would have been in a lot of thousands per month.
#568 of 799 Re: What sets it apart? [ateixeira] by psychogun May 16, 2008 (8:40 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (May 16, 2008 4:37 pm) Wow, you have to wait 6-8 weeks... Sorry to hear that. Depending on how high gas prices go over the next month or so, there is a chance demand for the new Forester may soften... But like you said, I wouldn't hold my breath either. Demand for the Outlander has softened considerably since the end of '07, unfortunate for Mitsubishi, but good for consumers... Hopefully, with the 4-cylinder Outlander now well represented on dealer lots, sales may rebound... Replies to this message: biscuit_xls (May 16, 2008 11:34 pm) kdshapiro (May 17, 2008 4:14 am) biscuit_xls (May 17, 2008 4:56 am)
#569 of 799 Re: What sets it apart? [psychogun] by biscuit_xls May 16, 2008 (11:34 pm)
Replying to: psychogun (May 16, 2008 8:40 pm) Mitsubishi Motors has announced its production, sales and export figures for February 2008, with record-breaking growth fuelled by sales of the new Outlander and new Lancer, according to a report on carpages.co.uk.   The report states that total global production came in at 128,606 units, an increase of 12.1 per cent over the same month last year, and marking the 12th consecutive monthly increase since March last year. Production volume in Japan at 86,909 units was up 17.7 per cent, the 17th consecutive month of year-on-year growth and marking a new record since Mitsubishi Motors spun off its truck and bus operations in 2003.   This growth, carpages.co.uk reports, was driven by a 37.6 per-cent increase in output (29,444 units) of the new Lancer for the Russian, North American, Middle East and African markets and by a 36.1 per cent increase in output (17,243 units) for export shipment of the new Outlander, which continues to sell briskly in European and Chinese markets. Replies to this message: kdshapiro (May 17, 2008 4:14 am)
#570 of 799 .. by rcpax May 16, 2008 (11:42 pm)
And that's exactly the reason why Outlanders for Europe are already being built in the NedCar plant in Europe itself because of the great demand for the Outlander and its variants, the Peugeot 4007 and Citroen C-Crosser. Exports from Japan just can't satisfy the great worldwide demand.   If Outlander is a "boring" SUV, I don't think Peugeot and Citroen will want to rebadge it under their own brand. Replies to this message: bigmclargehuge (May 17, 2008 4:59 am) bigmclargehuge (May 17, 2008 5:49 am)
#571 of 799 Re: What sets it apart? [biscuit_xls] by kdshapiro May 17, 2008 (4:14 am)
Replying to: biscuit_xls (May 16, 2008 11:34 pm) 36.1 per cent increase in output (17,243 units) for export shipment of the new Outlander   Back here on earth, what does this have to with anything? For all I know, the compeition increased 50% in output, leaving the Outlander in the dust. You're better off sticking to discussing AWD nuances.
#572 of 799 Re: What sets it apart? [psychogun] by biscuit_xls May 17, 2008 (4:56 am)
Replying to: psychogun (May 16, 2008 8:40 pm) It was a reply to this statement: Demand for the Outlander has softened considerably since the end of '07
#573 of 799 Re: .. [rcpax] by bigmclargehuge May 17, 2008 (4:59 am)
Replying to: rcpax (May 16, 2008 11:42 pm) If Outlander is a "boring" SUV, I don't think Peugeot and Citroen will want to rebadge it under their own brand.   Right... because Peugeot and Citroen don't have any boring econoboxes at all... Replies to this message: bigmclargehuge (May 17, 2008 5:49 am)
#574 of 799 Sales, resale by ateixeira May 17, 2008 (5:06 am)
Blitz wrote:   If Outlander had a Honda badge on it and Forester a Toyota you can be more than sure that the sales would have been in a lot of thousands per month   I don't think anyone will argue with that.   But...the fact is, Honda and Toyota earned that rep.   gun wrote:   there is a chance demand for the new Forester may soften   Yes and no - fewer people will move up from compact sedans, but more people may downsize from an SUV. With 20/26 mpg stamped on the Monroney, that won't scare people away.   It could hurt turbo sales but most of the volume is the base engine.   How's the sales split with the Outlander, V6 vs. I4, I wonder? I bet the diesel represents a lot of those overseas sales.   In the US, I think sales are softer. I found 7 left over 2007 models when I went on my test drive. That's not good.   I'm sure the incentive will clear them out soon, but incentives erode residuals, which were already not as good as the Forester's per ALG.   For someone who keeps their cars forever, that may not matter. You may be upside down on a loan for a while if you took one, but unless it's totalled or you have to sell it early for unforeseen reaons, no biggie. Replies to this message: rcpax (May 17, 2008 5:42 am) kdshapiro (May 17, 2008 8:05 am) rcpax (May 17, 2008 5:44 am) ateixeira (May 17, 2008 9:30 am)
#576 of 799 Re: Sales, resale [ateixeira] by rcpax May 17, 2008 (5:42 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (May 17, 2008 5:06 am) But...the fact is, Honda and Toyota earned that rep.   And also true, a lot of people buy the brand rather than value for money, but as we know, these trusted brand vehicles are not without problems. So they are not superior by default. Replies to this message: kdshapiro (May 17, 2008 8:05 am)

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