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799 messages, Last post on Nov 23, 2009 at 1:52 PM
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Replying to: comem47 (May 15, 2008 12:45 pm)  I couldn't have said it better. :shades |
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Replying to: blitzkrieg79 (May 15, 2008 12:27 pm) You just described a Forester XT buyer, basically. We should focus on the Outlander and the Forester. Talking about the Pajero only waters down our discussion, it's basically not relevant. Ford basically had a very similar setup, knob and all, even with the lock mode. They use a Rotary Blade Coupling. That's why I'd like to know more about who the supplier is and what mechanical system Mitsubishi uses for the Outlander specically. Is it a Haldex-type? RBC? Clutch-type? Who makes it? Pajeros are awesome but that doesn't mean anything here. I agree that Audi is no longer the best, in fact a Torsen differential fails completely and acts like an open differential when there is no traction. Great for a dry track, terrible for slippery conditions. That's why they added traction control. Keep in mind Nissan and Subaru share the same technology for traction/stability control, in fact they even use the same name for it. S-AWC is neat but the the "S" is for super but Hyatt Mitsubishi says the Outlander has "All Wheel Control" (minus the Super). So if the EVO is Super Man, the Outlander is just Clark Kent without the super powers. 
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Replying to: blitzkrieg79 (May 15, 2008 12:49 pm) Necessity is relative to the user I guess. I was thinking more along the lines of another driver's incompetence getting in my way with little reaction time. I've avoided quite a few deers by braking, but once where there was absolutely no option but to swerve. That was in a RWD, and I had a free lane so I didn't have to transition back, hence, no oversteer. But I guarantee in that instance had I been in a FWD, Bambi and I would have gotten to know each other a lot better. |
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Replying to: kdshapiro (May 15, 2008 12:50 pm) LOL, best all around based on what???? All the current evidence suggests that Evo X S-AWC is better in all situations whether snow, sleet, gravel, or paved track.
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Replying to: dcm61 (May 15, 2008 12:52 pm) Do the other 99% drive in Iowa, Nebraska, and Kansas? If you live in some remote area then yeah you should get AWD or better yet a 4x4 vehicle. But anywhere there is a pavement, AWD becomes less relevant. I don't know the exact statistics and I exaggerated with the 99% (just like most people exaggerate on this forum) but I am more than sure that over 50% of drivers don't really need AWD, especially here in USA.
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Replying to: blitzkrieg79 (May 15, 2008 1:00 pm) When did it get tested under those conditions? If there's some evidence of that I'd like to see it. Not trying to sound condescending, I really would. I thought that Mitsu essentially said the EVO IX was their last attempt at an all-purpose rally-bred car. And that the X was street-performance only. STI will still be a dirt-devil.
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 15, 2008 12:54 pm) Anyway, to me Outlander represents a better value than the new Forester and I don't think anything will change that unless Subaru brings in a NA 6 cylinder into the equation along with a more modern transmission. Then maybe we can talk. As far as AWD systems are concerned, the one that Outlander has is more than adequate for everyday driving conditions. |
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Replying to: blitzkrieg79 (May 15, 2008 1:03 pm) I don't really consider 4x4 a 'better yet' to AWD. Its just not worth the extra weight, rollover risk, poor fuel mileage, and 0% usefulness on the dry twisties. Up to 2' of snow on the road proper (rare), an Impreza/Outback/Forester/Legacy is every bit as useful as an F350, if not moreso. From experience. |
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (May 15, 2008 1:05 pm) http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=109902 |
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Replying to: blitzkrieg79 (May 15, 2008 1:00 pm) Configurable 4WD, on/off ASC, shiftable A/T. To me, these were net advantages for the Outlander as I appreciate to have a little more control over the car systems. I get some flexibility to chose the configuration instead of going with the vehicle's defaults or find a cumbersome work around to change those defaults.
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