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Thanks biscuit_xls, so the 100k warranty is not transferable. 5/60k still ain't bad. Suzuki has the only 100k mile powertrain warranty that is fully transferable that I know of. I agree that splitting from Chrysler was a good thing. They weren't going to get much out of that deal IMHO. It's odd that the 4 cylinder in the Outlander is shared with the Caliber, though. I pointed out in my test drive review that the Outlander did seem a lot better insulated, so the engine was not objectionable. dodo2: I sort of doubt tracy01 cares whether we call it peeling or chipping, she just wants her brand new crossover to look acceptable after a just a year or so of use. That seems like a fair expectation to me. Let's not crucify the poor girl for speaking up. tracy: do you have pics? I can host them for you. Maybe it's not that bad after all (then again maybe it is). |
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 09, 2008 10:37 am) Is about clearly stating the issue properly reference it and describe it and perhaps this is where you don't do a very good job. Just post the link to that discussion so we can all see what you are talking about. And yes, I did a Search for posts from "tracy01" in the Outlander discussion, but nothing came up other than your few posts.
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Replying to: dodo2 (May 09, 2008 11:20 am) http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f185114/76 You're right, it was both rear doors, not the bumper. That would actually be harder to respray. It's easier to remove a bumper vs. 2 doors with all the trim and stuff.
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 09, 2008 10:37 am) It's not at all. The R&D or OEM contracts don't go away with the stock sale. The engines, 2.0L and 2.4L, have been developed by Chrysler, Mitsubishi and Hyundai n partnership and they show up in various models from these manufacturers. However, each company has it own touch on the engines - e.g. MIVEC on Mitsubishi, so in the end they may perform quite differently.
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Replying to: dodo2 (May 09, 2008 11:30 am) Subaru was part owned by GM but they never really developed any synergies. The closest we saw was the Saab 9-2x, but it was basically a re-badge. GM also sold a Chevy Forester in India for a while. It was funny to see a bow tie on the front like that. Toyota bought those shares, so let's see what happens next. They've announced a light RWD coupe, perhaps a Celica replacement, based on the WRX. Subaru will get a version too. Getting back on topic, I guess I would not mind it if Subaru started getting things like HVAC and stereo/GPS/entertainment system from Toyota, but hopefully they keep the drivetrains seperate. I want my next GPS to have traffic capability and with oil at $125 a barrel it would be nice to have access to gas prices, too. I may get a high-end Nuvi soon.
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 09, 2008 11:29 am) Well, if you go back and check this post (#77), you’ll see that “tracy01” received quick responses from myself (#80) and “Rcpax” (#87) with two solutions to the problem as well as where to find more information (Outlander vs. Forester thread wasn’t really the best place to post about that issue, especially when there are few threads on the Outlander forum opened on this issue, with pictures and information). I still fail to see how “Tracy01” was pushed around, ignored or anything of this sort. No need to give “Tracy01” Mitsu’s 1-800 number as you suggested either as the number is in the Owner’s Manual, Mitsu’s web site and most likely on a windshield sticker. A good practice would be to check your information before you post… or state a disclaimer….
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 09, 2008 11:37 am) |
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Replying to: dodo2 (May 09, 2008 12:02 pm) Also search for the "Amen" response I got and "you get what you pay for". I want to know what sort of problems creep up, what to expect. I can overlook problems as long as I feel like I understand what they are and trust the issues that arise will be taken care of. Am I skeptical? Absolutely. I complained that the cargo area is narrow and the knee-jerk response was that it's wider than the Forester's, even though it's about 3-4" more narrow. You may recall the whole 7" cargo height advantage myth, too. The "leather" arm rests. Can you blame me for being skeptical? |
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 09, 2008 12:55 pm) I referred Tracy01 to the appropriate thread AFTER I gave her/him a summary of my solution to the problem. I did that because the dedicated threads already have more information on the issue - other owners experience with the issue, pictures of body cladding, extended mudguards, door side garnish, sources where to get them from, prices, etc. Now that you brought this up, there is nothing about "gag order", but in order to keep these forums organized, the posts should be made in the appropriate place. Maybe one of the moderators could explain it to you better if you are not familiar with the concept (I'm trying to avoid the situation where you interpret my explanation as an unfriendly Outlander owner behavior BTW: We are off-topic already. Remember, this thread is about "Outlander vs. Forester". I want to know what sort of problems creep up, what to expect. I can overlook problems as long as I feel like I understand what they are and trust the issues that arise will be taken care of. This is the reason to read the Outlander forum. There is a ton of information there. If you are truly interested in learning about the Outlander and his history form its launch, I can give you the links to few other Outlander forums. For the time being, we are in a shared thread visible from both Forester and Outlander forums so we should stick with talking about how these two cars compare.
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 09, 2008 12:55 pm)
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