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Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester

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What is this discussion about? Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Reponses to a few comments/questions.... by ateixeira
May 08, 2008 (10:38 am)
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So what's the problem then?
 
tracy01 hasn't received the same sort of help.
 
I'm not asking for teflon bumpers. A few suggestions have been made, that's a start. That's how responses should be. How 'bout some links to sites that sell the mud guards, maybe some pricing, photos, etc.
 
when the person declares that the vehicle/manufacturer is not even worth considering because a single issue
 
That's a bit harsh, yes, but it's more than just the issue itself, it's how the manufacturer responds to the issue.
 
For example, would you rather have 2 problems that a manufacturer was happy to fix for you, or 1 where they weren't? Noone has addressed the 44% satisfaction rate with Mitsubishi dealer repairs. I haven't got an answer to my question about whether the 100k warranty is transferable (nor do I expect one).
 
go to a Subaru thread and start telling them that the Outlander is better
 
That would be trolling. Very different. There is an appropriate place for comparisons - here!
 
A couple of Outlander fans have not respected that boundary.
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Re: Reponses to a few comments/questions.... [ateixeira] by biscuit_xls
May 08, 2008 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 08, 2008 10:38 am)

Outlander Warranty Transferability
 
Basic Warranty is fully transferable to subsequent owners at no charge for remainder of warranty. 120 month/100,000 miles Powertrain Warranty applies to original owner. Subsequent owners receive the balance of coverage remaining under the 60 month/60,000 mile New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
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Re: Reponses to a few comments/questions.... [ateixeira] by biscuit_xls
May 08, 2008 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 08, 2008 10:38 am)

Mitsubishi USA suffered during the merge with Chrysler, their cars and dealer network were crap. Recent products like the Outlander reflect a fresh new approach, and the 10 year warranty is an indication that Mitsubishi stands behind their product.
 
I've had mixed experiences with my 3 local Mitsubishi dealerships. A new one just opened up and so far it has been good.
 
The easy solution to getting great dealer service is to spend big bucks on a Lexus, MB, BMW etc. On the low end of the spectrum it gets a little dicey, I've had bad dealer experiences with Chevrolet, Honda, VW, Subaru, Ford.
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Re: Reponses to a few comments/questions.... [ateixeira] by dodo2
May 08, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 08, 2008 10:38 am)

First off, you keep talking about peeling bumper, teflon bumper, etc.
Can you post a reference to the post you are referring too? Personally I'm not aware of such an issue, but that's not important. Once you do that, we can take it from there.
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wrt subaru forester paint... by kurtamaxxxguy
May 09, 2008 (7:45 am)
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there are two very small "clearbra" patches applied, one on each size at the lowest point of the front of the rear wheelwell. This is apparently to help stop pitting of the paint in those areas.
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Re: wrt subaru forester paint... [kurtamaxxxguy] by dodo2
May 09, 2008 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (May 09, 2008 7:45 am)

The Outlander has two small patches of clear film in that area too, but they are not enough. A much larger area is exposed and needs to be protected.
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Bye Bye Chrysler by ateixeira
May 09, 2008 (10:37 am)
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Thanks biscuit_xls, so the 100k warranty is not transferable. 5/60k still ain't bad.
 
Suzuki has the only 100k mile powertrain warranty that is fully transferable that I know of.
 
I agree that splitting from Chrysler was a good thing. They weren't going to get much out of that deal IMHO. It's odd that the 4 cylinder in the Outlander is shared with the Caliber, though. I pointed out in my test drive review that the Outlander did seem a lot better insulated, so the engine was not objectionable.
 
dodo2: I sort of doubt tracy01 cares whether we call it peeling or chipping, she just wants her brand new crossover to look acceptable after a just a year or so of use. That seems like a fair expectation to me.
 
Let's not crucify the poor girl for speaking up.
 
tracy: do you have pics? I can host them for you. Maybe it's not that bad after all (then again maybe it is).
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Re: Bye Bye Chrysler [ateixeira] by dodo2
May 09, 2008 (11:20 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 09, 2008 10:37 am)

I was just curious about the posts you are talking about. I cannot remember it. It's not about how you call it - peeling or chipping, but where it occurs. You keep saying bumper and this is not where the usual chipping occurs therefore it wouldn't be a wide spread problem - the doors chipping is.
Is about clearly stating the issue properly reference it and describe it and perhaps this is where you don't do a very good job.
Just post the link to that discussion so we can all see what you are talking about.
 
And yes, I did a Search for posts from "tracy01" in the Outlander discussion, but nothing came up other than your few posts.
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Re: Bye Bye Chrysler [dodo2] by ateixeira
May 09, 2008 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: dodo2 (May 09, 2008 11:20 am)

Found it, link:
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f185114/76
 
You're right, it was both rear doors, not the bumper.
 
That would actually be harder to respray. It's easier to remove a bumper vs. 2 doors with all the trim and stuff.
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Re: Bye Bye Chrysler [ateixeira] by dodo2
May 09, 2008 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 09, 2008 10:37 am)

"It's odd that the 4 cylinder in the Outlander is shared with the Caliber, though."
 
It's not at all. The R&D or OEM contracts don't go away with the stock sale.
 
The engines, 2.0L and 2.4L, have been developed by Chrysler, Mitsubishi and Hyundai n partnership and they show up in various models from these manufacturers. However, each company has it own touch on the engines - e.g. MIVEC on Mitsubishi, so in the end they may perform quite differently.

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