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Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester

832 messages,  Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 5:38 PM

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What is this discussion about? Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: .. [ateixeira] by dodo2
May 08, 2008 (9:32 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 08, 2008 7:53 am)

Test out my theory. Go to a Subaru thread, tell them you are shopping for a used Forester, and ask what sort of flaws to look for. What you will get is full disclosure - look for wheel bearing issues on models prior to the 03 redo, head gaskets on the 99-02 models, check the front and rear main seals for oil leaks, drive in a figure 8 to test the diffs, etc.
 
Test this theory - go to a Subaru thread and start telling them that the Outlander is better (just because you say so) and they all have a crappy car from a crappy company. This is what's going on here.
People knowing nothing to little about the vehicle and the company nor have any interest in buying it, come here and start bashing.
 
Now, go to the other dedicated Outlander forums, where only people owning the car or interested in buying one come over and share their experience and ask questions. The things are totally different.
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Re: .. [ateixeira] by dodo2
May 08, 2008 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 08, 2008 7:53 am)

The person I was referring to did have his bumper re-painted free of charge. That's why I brought it up.
 
So what's the problem then?
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Re: .. [dodo2] by kdshapiro
May 08, 2008 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: dodo2 (May 08, 2008 9:32 am)

Test this theory - go to a Subaru thread and start telling them that the Outlander is better (just because you say so) and they all have a crappy car from a crappy company. This is what's going on here.
People knowing nothing to little about the vehicle and the company nor have any interest in buying it, come here and start bashing.

 
I would never say the Outlander isn't the best car for you. But the fact is each have their redeeming features and the Forester has been a top rated pick for a lot of reasons over the last few years.
 
As far as Mitsubishi, they may be a huge conglomerate but in my eyes they have a long way to go before I would buy a car from them. I know people feel the same about Subaru, Lexus, Honda, BMW, Mercedes, Nissan etc. Car manufacturer bias is a fact of life, but Mistubishi in particular has earned my distrust.
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Reponses to a few comments/questions.... by ateixeira
May 08, 2008 (10:38 am)
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So what's the problem then?
 
tracy01 hasn't received the same sort of help.
 
I'm not asking for teflon bumpers. A few suggestions have been made, that's a start. That's how responses should be. How 'bout some links to sites that sell the mud guards, maybe some pricing, photos, etc.
 
when the person declares that the vehicle/manufacturer is not even worth considering because a single issue
 
That's a bit harsh, yes, but it's more than just the issue itself, it's how the manufacturer responds to the issue.
 
For example, would you rather have 2 problems that a manufacturer was happy to fix for you, or 1 where they weren't? Noone has addressed the 44% satisfaction rate with Mitsubishi dealer repairs. I haven't got an answer to my question about whether the 100k warranty is transferable (nor do I expect one).
 
go to a Subaru thread and start telling them that the Outlander is better
 
That would be trolling. Very different. There is an appropriate place for comparisons - here!
 
A couple of Outlander fans have not respected that boundary.
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Re: Reponses to a few comments/questions.... [ateixeira] by biscuit_xls
May 08, 2008 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 08, 2008 10:38 am)

Outlander Warranty Transferability
 
Basic Warranty is fully transferable to subsequent owners at no charge for remainder of warranty. 120 month/100,000 miles Powertrain Warranty applies to original owner. Subsequent owners receive the balance of coverage remaining under the 60 month/60,000 mile New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
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Re: Reponses to a few comments/questions.... [ateixeira] by biscuit_xls
May 08, 2008 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 08, 2008 10:38 am)

Mitsubishi USA suffered during the merge with Chrysler, their cars and dealer network were crap. Recent products like the Outlander reflect a fresh new approach, and the 10 year warranty is an indication that Mitsubishi stands behind their product.
 
I've had mixed experiences with my 3 local Mitsubishi dealerships. A new one just opened up and so far it has been good.
 
The easy solution to getting great dealer service is to spend big bucks on a Lexus, MB, BMW etc. On the low end of the spectrum it gets a little dicey, I've had bad dealer experiences with Chevrolet, Honda, VW, Subaru, Ford.
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Re: Reponses to a few comments/questions.... [ateixeira] by dodo2
May 08, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 08, 2008 10:38 am)

First off, you keep talking about peeling bumper, teflon bumper, etc.
Can you post a reference to the post you are referring too? Personally I'm not aware of such an issue, but that's not important. Once you do that, we can take it from there.
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wrt subaru forester paint... by kurtamaxxxguy
May 09, 2008 (7:45 am)
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there are two very small "clearbra" patches applied, one on each size at the lowest point of the front of the rear wheelwell. This is apparently to help stop pitting of the paint in those areas.
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Re: wrt subaru forester paint... [kurtamaxxxguy] by dodo2
May 09, 2008 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (May 09, 2008 7:45 am)

The Outlander has two small patches of clear film in that area too, but they are not enough. A much larger area is exposed and needs to be protected.
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Bye Bye Chrysler by ateixeira
May 09, 2008 (10:37 am)
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Thanks biscuit_xls, so the 100k warranty is not transferable. 5/60k still ain't bad.
 
Suzuki has the only 100k mile powertrain warranty that is fully transferable that I know of.
 
I agree that splitting from Chrysler was a good thing. They weren't going to get much out of that deal IMHO. It's odd that the 4 cylinder in the Outlander is shared with the Caliber, though. I pointed out in my test drive review that the Outlander did seem a lot better insulated, so the engine was not objectionable.
 
dodo2: I sort of doubt tracy01 cares whether we call it peeling or chipping, she just wants her brand new crossover to look acceptable after a just a year or so of use. That seems like a fair expectation to me.
 
Let's not crucify the poor girl for speaking up.
 
tracy: do you have pics? I can host them for you. Maybe it's not that bad after all (then again maybe it is).

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