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SUVs Mitsubishi Outlander Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester
822 messages, Last post on Nov 29, 2009 at 3:27 PM
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Replying to: steve_ (May 07, 2008 6:43 pm) IIRC Nissan EX35 has such paint (standard or optional I'm not sure). Could be an urban legend, but I have seen countless posts from owners of many brands, including luxury brands, complaining about the paint chips. Sure, some 3M clear film is your friend .... |
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Replying to: p0926 (May 07, 2008 6:19 pm) I agree that Honda and Toyota have a slight edge over the other Japanese manufacturers from certain stand points, but they are not a guarantee for a trouble-free ownership by any means. The thing that I will argue about is that this slight difference is blown out of proportions by the car magazines and perpetuated by the vast majority of the buyers that only use the car magazines and main online auto outlets as their sole source of information. Again, personally, I wouldn't have a problem to buy the vehicle I like from any of the Japanese manufacturers today. |
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 07, 2008 12:41 pm) The Outlander has the same plastic cover on the rocker panel, but that's not where the chipping occurs. The vulnerable areas are the lower part of the doors and the bulging part of the fender/rear door. Mitsu also put some clear film on, but it's just not enough. I'm yet to check out the Forester, but it's just my gut feeling that it's exposed to the same problem. When you get the car, drive through some mud an see where the dirt collects on the side of the car. Luckily, there are ways to protect the Outlander from this issue. I wish Mitsu had done it from the factory, but I'll end up doing it on my own anyway. Not overly concerned about it. I got few paint chips myself, from before I put the mud guards on, but they are easy to touch up and when I'm done, they'll be covered by the clear film and the door side garnish I bought from Japan (Mitsu accessory). |
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 07, 2008 9:15 am) Amen. |
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Replying to: rcpax (May 07, 2008 2:24 pm) What I'm saying is if someone comes to complain about a problem, instead of arguing with him or her and getting defensive about how great your [insert model name here] is, why not try to help them out? This is why I provided the 800 numbers for both Subaru and Mitsubishi. In a tight-knit owner community you might even see a letter writing campaign to get one particular problem fixed for free. In other words, instead of alienating someone who comes to complain, try to help them out instead. Test out my theory. Go to a Subaru thread, tell them you are shopping for a used Forester, and ask what sort of flaws to look for. What you will get is full disclosure - look for wheel bearing issues on models prior to the 03 redo, head gaskets on the 99-02 models, check the front and rear main seals for oil leaks, drive in a figure 8 to test the diffs, etc. For Mitsubishi you get "this the most reliable car in the world and you have a 10 year warranty" but noone tells you dealers only fix 44% of the problems that come up to your satisfaction. Is the warranty even transferable? I will not be surprised if I don't get an answer. |
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 08, 2008 7:53 am) |
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 08, 2008 7:53 am) Test this theory - go to a Subaru thread and start telling them that the Outlander is better (just because you say so) and they all have a crappy car from a crappy company. This is what's going on here. People knowing nothing to little about the vehicle and the company nor have any interest in buying it, come here and start bashing. Now, go to the other dedicated Outlander forums, where only people owning the car or interested in buying one come over and share their experience and ask questions. The things are totally different.
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 08, 2008 7:53 am) So what's the problem then? |
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Replying to: dodo2 (May 08, 2008 9:32 am) People knowing nothing to little about the vehicle and the company nor have any interest in buying it, come here and start bashing. I would never say the Outlander isn't the best car for you. But the fact is each have their redeeming features and the Forester has been a top rated pick for a lot of reasons over the last few years. As far as Mitsubishi, they may be a huge conglomerate but in my eyes they have a long way to go before I would buy a car from them. I know people feel the same about Subaru, Lexus, Honda, BMW, Mercedes, Nissan etc. Car manufacturer bias is a fact of life, but Mistubishi in particular has earned my distrust. |
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So what's the problem then? tracy01 hasn't received the same sort of help. I'm not asking for teflon bumpers. A few suggestions have been made, that's a start. That's how responses should be. How 'bout some links to sites that sell the mud guards, maybe some pricing, photos, etc. when the person declares that the vehicle/manufacturer is not even worth considering because a single issue That's a bit harsh, yes, but it's more than just the issue itself, it's how the manufacturer responds to the issue. For example, would you rather have 2 problems that a manufacturer was happy to fix for you, or 1 where they weren't? Noone has addressed the 44% satisfaction rate with Mitsubishi dealer repairs. I haven't got an answer to my question about whether the 100k warranty is transferable (nor do I expect one). go to a Subaru thread and start telling them that the Outlander is better That would be trolling. Very different. There is an appropriate place for comparisons - here! A couple of Outlander fans have not respected that boundary.
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