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SUVs Mitsubishi Outlander Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester
666 messages, Last post on Nov 12, 2009 at 1:56 AM
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Replying to: dodo2 (May 07, 2008 5:51 pm) I doubt it. Online forums by their very nature tend to distort problems. In fact that's one of my biggest beefs with Edmunds... any old crackpot can start a new topic with the primary intent of bashing a given make and model  Then the unsuspecting visitor drops in to do some research about a vehicle they're thinking about buying and they get cold feet because of all the negative stuff they see posted. Has Honda's and Toyota's quality slipped some? I would agree that yes they have slightly but thye're still the industry standard. Here's an excerpt from Motor Trend's current cute-ute comparison test: "As with all Hondas, everything about the CR-V feels like it's built to tolerances alien to the hands of slapdash humans" So while the other Japanese manufacturers (Misubishi, Mazda, Nissan and Subaru) all have admirable records, IMO, they are still a step (albeit slight) below Honda and Toyota. -Frank
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Replying to: p0926 (May 07, 2008 6:19 pm) While there are a few things that irk me about the Forester, fit or finish aren't either. No doubt the higher end RAV4 or CRV are higher end than the Forester in terms of accutrements. But for what it is, the stuff on the Forester works fine. My only warranty repair necessary or that was needed to date was a broken plastic, rear seat switch flipper downer thingy. |
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Replying to: dodo2 (May 07, 2008 11:54 am) I think that's an urban legend. Just because modern paints don't contain lead and have low VOC, the advances in formulation and application (electroplating, clearcoats, etc.) has more than made up for any perceived advantages of paint from the 50's or 80's. Then there's auto paint getting tested in Japan that's self-healing and will actually fix the odd scratch over a week or so, but I haven't heard much about it lately. Meanwhile, some 3M or Stoneguard film may be worth it to you.
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Replying to: steve_ (May 07, 2008 6:43 pm) IIRC Nissan EX35 has such paint (standard or optional I'm not sure). Could be an urban legend, but I have seen countless posts from owners of many brands, including luxury brands, complaining about the paint chips. Sure, some 3M clear film is your friend .... |
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Replying to: p0926 (May 07, 2008 6:19 pm) I agree that Honda and Toyota have a slight edge over the other Japanese manufacturers from certain stand points, but they are not a guarantee for a trouble-free ownership by any means. The thing that I will argue about is that this slight difference is blown out of proportions by the car magazines and perpetuated by the vast majority of the buyers that only use the car magazines and main online auto outlets as their sole source of information. Again, personally, I wouldn't have a problem to buy the vehicle I like from any of the Japanese manufacturers today. |
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 07, 2008 12:41 pm) The Outlander has the same plastic cover on the rocker panel, but that's not where the chipping occurs. The vulnerable areas are the lower part of the doors and the bulging part of the fender/rear door. Mitsu also put some clear film on, but it's just not enough. I'm yet to check out the Forester, but it's just my gut feeling that it's exposed to the same problem. When you get the car, drive through some mud an see where the dirt collects on the side of the car. Luckily, there are ways to protect the Outlander from this issue. I wish Mitsu had done it from the factory, but I'll end up doing it on my own anyway. Not overly concerned about it. I got few paint chips myself, from before I put the mud guards on, but they are easy to touch up and when I'm done, they'll be covered by the clear film and the door side garnish I bought from Japan (Mitsu accessory). |
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 07, 2008 9:15 am) Amen. |
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Replying to: rcpax (May 07, 2008 2:24 pm) What I'm saying is if someone comes to complain about a problem, instead of arguing with him or her and getting defensive about how great your [insert model name here] is, why not try to help them out? This is why I provided the 800 numbers for both Subaru and Mitsubishi. In a tight-knit owner community you might even see a letter writing campaign to get one particular problem fixed for free. In other words, instead of alienating someone who comes to complain, try to help them out instead. Test out my theory. Go to a Subaru thread, tell them you are shopping for a used Forester, and ask what sort of flaws to look for. What you will get is full disclosure - look for wheel bearing issues on models prior to the 03 redo, head gaskets on the 99-02 models, check the front and rear main seals for oil leaks, drive in a figure 8 to test the diffs, etc. For Mitsubishi you get "this the most reliable car in the world and you have a 10 year warranty" but noone tells you dealers only fix 44% of the problems that come up to your satisfaction. Is the warranty even transferable? I will not be surprised if I don't get an answer. |
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 08, 2008 7:53 am) |
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 08, 2008 7:53 am) Test this theory - go to a Subaru thread and start telling them that the Outlander is better (just because you say so) and they all have a crappy car from a crappy company. This is what's going on here. People knowing nothing to little about the vehicle and the company nor have any interest in buying it, come here and start bashing. Now, go to the other dedicated Outlander forums, where only people owning the car or interested in buying one come over and share their experience and ask questions. The things are totally different.
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