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SUVs Mitsubishi Outlander Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester
911 messages, Last post on Dec 07, 2009 at 8:47 AM
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 03, 2008 5:51 pm) It must be your typo or you talking about Lancer. The 2009 Outlander is not available yet. >> I wish the leather were perforated . It is perforated, just in a different way: on side sitting area, not in the middle like Forester. I do like Forester perforation in the middle more. >> The arm rests are both padded but they are certainly not leather, sorry chelentano. Put two finger on the material and pinch them together. The soft leather on the seat has small wrinkles. It is vinyl, you r right, but if you don’t inspect it very close it looks like leather and offers more luxury feel. . >> The headliner, again, par for this class, looks like recylced dryer lint glued on to cardboard. The headliner is actually a special unique fabric designed to absorb odor. http://www.buyersguide.com/cars/07_mitsubishi_outlander.jsp . >> The sun visor is, you guessed it, plastic, but squeeze it and you hear this strange crunching sound. The visors feel certainly cheep I agree, but I don’t care. . >> I mentioned this after the Auto Show, but visibility is not good. What I found during my test drive is that the mirrors don't do enough to help - they are far too narrow. Forester visibility is little better, but Outlander is acceptable and better then Murano or CX-7. I agree about the mirror. I went and bought after marker extra wide rear view mirror for $20. Now I have no blind spots. . >> Strangest of all, my head rubbed the ceiling on an XLS with the moonroof. Yea, rear seat head room with moon roof is little tight for a tall person. You must be at least 6 foot I guess. The Outlander is the only car I found which fits my requirements: integrated Bluetooth, FAST key, great reliability, preferably 5/10 warranty, styling, aux audio jack, smooth engine and transmission, full-time AWD, priced under $25K. All of that I could get in Outlander XLS AWD for about $23.5K, but I went for extra packages.
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Replying to: dodo2 (May 03, 2008 6:08 pm) I pointed out the Rogue to my wife at the car show and she hated it. Too small and strangely styled for her. To me the Rogue is too style-over-substance. |
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Replying to: dodo2 (May 03, 2008 7:37 pm) Still, most of my complaints also apply to the loaded V6 on the showroom floor. The seats, shifter knob, and steering wheel are much appreciated upgrades on the interior. As for Forester vs. Impreza, Subaru thankfully gave the Forester more upscale door panels. It still has some of the same issues that I had with the Outlander - thin carpeting, same headliner, etc. Like I said, for $20-25k prices, this is not a problem. As for the headrest, let me explain it better. When lowered, it sticks out a bit from the seat. It happened to hit my neck, so you pretty much have to raise it up all the time. The Forester's sits on top of the seat and didn't create that problem for me. I'm 6' so I doubt shorter people would even notice. Personally, I'd pick the manual transmission, but two problems: the wife wants an automatic, and the LL Bean model only comes in automatic on the Forester. Oh well, it's her car. |
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Replying to: chelentano (May 03, 2008 10:12 pm) I can say that the 2008 brochure does not list the SE model, what's up with that? Does it exist? Was it a late model intro, that didn't make the brochure?  I did note the perforations on the sides of the seat, I just wish it covered the whole seating surface. My Miata has leather like that and it doesn't "breathe" well. As for the feel of the arm rests, let's rack that up to personal preference. Personally, I think it's a shame they didn't use the same soft leather from the seats there. The vinyl is shinier and doesn't feel the same to the touch. I prefer the EVO's faux suede, again personal preference. The Forester's headliner looks identical. Maybe before they installed it on the Mitsu they sprinkled some baking soda on there.  Cool that the aftermarket can step in and offer better mirrors. For early models, 98-02, the Forester L had tiny mirrors and the more upscale Forester S has big ones. Thankfully, they standardized on just one size and chose the bigger one. I am spoiled by the enormous mirrors on my minivan. With those and a fish-eye lens stuck on the back window, I can see well out of that big van. Yep, I'm about 6' even, and since it's usually kids in the back seat I don't think the headroom issue is a problem. Plus if it is, just don't get the moonroof. The Forester seemed to have more head room, less leg room. The opposite basically. I sat in the back of the Forester when my wife was test driving it (we had 5 people in the car).
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 04, 2008 4:51 pm) http://media.mitsubishicars.com/detail?mid=MIT2007111569663&mime=ASC Several of these upgrades will be available on the '09 Outlander.
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Replying to: psychogun (May 05, 2008 8:50 am) The salesman must have been mistaken. He didn't know how to answer my towing questions, instead referring me to the brochure. He could not find the owners manual, but I doubt he spent much time searching. As is common in the industry he was more of a sales guy than a car guy. I was focused on the vehicle while he kept bringing up money - how much are you looking to spend? What kind of payments? Do you have a trade? etc.
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 05, 2008 9:24 am) Then again, auto sales are dipping noticeably and they are under a lot of duress to make the sale... I'm in a similar boat as you, as I'm looking to trade in my Odyssey for a more fuel-efficient vehicle. I'm thinking new Honda Accord... but we'll see. Sorry about the off-topic post.
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Replying to: psychogun (May 05, 2008 7:56 pm) Okay since we're off topic... I'm curious, the Odyssey get's pretty good mpg for a vehicle its size and I assume that the reason you got it was because you needed the load carrying capacity (you certainly didn't get it because of the coolness factor  ) so how's an Accord going to work? -Frank
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After reading all these glowing reviews from Outlander owners, I figured I ought to give the SUV a once over. (I'd initially not considered Outlanders because Consumer Digest and Edmunds had low real-world MPG averages. If memory serves, Edmunds averaged just over 18 MPG over a 1000 miles. CD was about the same, maybe a little lower.) So I contacted our local Mitsubishi dealer to find out if they had any V6 AWDs in stock. They did, and they offered me a nice price up front an a new '07 LS with sunroof and big, bad stereo. I stopped by and took the vehicle for a spin. I liked the V6 overall. It's not a powerhorse, but it's got enough get up and go for a leisurely driver like myself. The cargo space seemed ample, and I liked the way the vehicle looked from the outside. The brakes and handling were adequate. However, the fit and finish were pretty poor all in all. The dashboard and trim looked low buck to me (even for this class) and the displays washed out in the midday sun. Overall, I can see why people would like this vehicle, especially given the steep discounts available, but given it's questionable gas mileage, Mitsubishi's reputation for dishonesty, cheap interior, and good enough, but forgettable performance, the Outlander is not among my finalists (Forester, Outback, CR-V, and RAV4). |
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Replying to: craigl (May 06, 2008 7:38 am) I'll ask the whole group - has anyone driven the V6 and CVT models back to back? |
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