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Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Car Comparisons, SUV
#1295 of 1581 Re: MT Comparo Results [ateixeira]
Feb 25, 2010 (5:21 pm)
Here are results of Motor Trend test of my 2007 Mitsubishi Outlander, XLS 4WD
Engine 3.0L/220-hp/204-lb-ft SOHC 24-valve V-6
Transmission 6-speed automatic
Wheelbase 105.1 in Length x width x height 182.7 x 70.9 x 66.1 in
Max Cargo Capacity 72.6 cu ft
Max Towing Capacity 3500 lb
0-60 mph 8.1 sec Quarter mile 16.4 sec 86.2 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 128 ft
Lateral acceleration 0.78 g (avg)
600-foot slalom 62.7 mph (avg)
MT figure eight 28.3 sec 0.59 g (avg)
EPA city/hwy fuel economy 19-20/26-27 mpg (old standard)
+ Excellent warranty, excellent safety ratings, great fit and finish, great standard futures, great styling in and out, great previous Mitsu experience.
All that for 22.5K (+tax) and 1.9% financing. Good enough for me.
#1296 of 1581 Re: MT Comparo Results [piast]
Feb 26, 2010 (8:00 am)
That's a great price, too.
I don't think Mitsu is discounting like that any more. batman paid $31.2k for his GT/leather, and that's only because he got a $500 loyalty incentive. So nearly $32k without that for the average Joe (plus tax).
I think that's the real reason sales aren't up - dealers (and Mitsu) are holding the line on prices. Someone like you walks in and finds the new GT is nearly 10 grand more than your last Outlander, and they experience sticker shock.
#1297 of 1581 Forester CR's Top Pick, Outlander "most overlooked"
Feb 26, 2010 (8:13 am)
Just got the auto issue of Consumer Reports, and it's a Subaru love fest.
Forester indeed is a Top Pick. Subaru and Honda tie for the overall brand score, though Subaru's average test score beat Honda 81 to 77. Actually, Subaru beat all other brands listed (page 15).
They also report on objective measures like ownership cost and owner satisfaction, areas where the Forester really shines.
Outlander is listed among the "most overlooked" models, and also squeezes in to 3rd in class since they bumped the RAV4 for now. They also show it on the front page of the recommended used cars.
#1298 of 1581 Re: MT Comparo Results [ateixeira]
Feb 26, 2010 (8:19 am)
Sticker on mine was 26K+ (with appearance pkg.). It took a lot of research and negotiating to get that price. It depends on the local market as well. I think I would be able to repeat that strategy in Chicagoland again if needed.
#1299 of 1581 Re: MT Comparo Results [ateixeira]
Feb 26, 2010 (9:03 am)
"Someone like you walks in and finds the new GT is nearly 10 grand more than your last Outlander, and they experience sticker shock."
Dealer: SOMEONE CALL 911! THIS GUY AIN'T BREATHING!
Innocent Bystander: What's wrong?!
Dealer: This guy is having a sticker shock!
Innocent Bystander: OMG!!!!!!!111oneon HOLD ON!
Lol, sticker shock.
#1300 of 1581 Re: MT Comparo Results [piast]
Feb 26, 2010 (9:05 am)
How long do you plan to keep it?
We buy and hold. I had my last Forester for 9 years, a Legacy for 7. I don't think I've ever sold a car that was less than 7 years old.
That's good for long-term costs, we've been able to spend our funds in other areas.
Right now our oldest car is a 2007 model and I don't plan to trade it in for at least another 3-5 years.
#1301 of 1581 Re: MT Comparo Results [imaginary]
Feb 26, 2010 (9:07 am)
As piast implied the XLS V6 model is still available for less.
Funny post, though.
#1302 of 1581 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited AWD system vs. Subaru Forester XT (automatic)
Feb 26, 2010 (12:35 pm)
Does the 2010 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited use the same AWD system as the 2010 Subaru Forester XT? Or are there some differences i.e. transfer clutch?
#1303 of 1581 Re: Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited AWD system vs. Subaru Forester XT (automatic) [imaginary]
Feb 26, 2010 (12:59 pm)
No, it uses the more sophisticated VTD system, which defaults to a 45/55 split.
#1304 of 1581 Re: MT Comparo Results [ateixeira]
Feb 26, 2010 (5:21 pm)
Same here. Considering not so good resale value, I think it is wise to hold them at least 7 years, or as long as power-train warranty is (10 years in Mitsubishi case).
I hope my next car would be able to get 30 mpg combined, without the extra cost of hybrid set-up, and not at the expense of space or AWD capability. Small / medium sized diesel pick-up truck could make my short list as well. Neither would be available in the next few years, so Outlander will stay with me for a while. So far it was a happy marriage.