Last post on May 10, 2010 at 5:35 AM
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Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Car Comparisons, SUV
#1007 of 1581 Re: Chase Freedom Rewards [chelentano]
Dec 23, 2009 (10:49 am)
What was on the cover? What month, I mean? I honestly didn't see that chart. I looked again at the January 2010 issue and saw something about Owner Satisfaction (Escape and Mariner Hybrids win the category).
Maybe you saw a special edition/buyer's guide?
I do have that, the "Buying Guide 2010" book and on page 172 they rate the 07 Outlander "Much Better than Average" but the 08 is merely "Average". On page 142 they split the difference, and the forecast is "Better than Average".
They don't list the Forester turbo seperately in that book.
Any how, I'm not disputing the drop in score on the 2009 turbos, but that only affected a few VINs as I listed above. The 2010s will score higher, but that will only be reflected a year from now.
Looking back at the Buying Guide 2008, the wheel bearings hurt the detailed score in that category on 2001 models (half black dot = below average), but by 2004 Subaru earned the red dot in that category (Much Better than Average). That's because they changed the design to a sealed type wheel bearing for model year 2003.
It's not uncommon to have a big gain (or drop) in reliability from one year to the next. It simply means they applied a fix, and it worked.
I'm sure Mitsubishi does the same thing. I see a few black dots that turned red.
#1008 of 1581 Re: Part #s [ateixeira]
Dec 23, 2009 (11:00 am)
On hauling lumber: Not as nice as a pickup or enclosed van but the fold down tailgate
extends the deck area on the Outlander. One reason I passed on the RAV4.
#1009 of 1581 Re: Part #s [comem47]
Dec 23, 2009 (11:02 am)
The clam shell is a neat feature, I mentioned that in my review after a test drive.
I think I'd still rather have the plywood on the roof, though. You may have scratched up the plastics on the inside of your D-pillar.
Edit: I was wondering why the RAV4 could not do that, and then I realized - the swing out door, of course! You'd need about 20 feet (*) of clearance behind you.
* - hyperbole
#1011 of 1581 Re: Part #s [ateixeira]
Dec 23, 2009 (11:27 am)
It didn't scratch it, but next time I'd put a blanket or towels over it to be safe.
The problem with the roof loading the lumber is you are lifting weight up high vs sliding the stuff in on a low tailgate.(I loaded it by myself direct off the Home Depot dolly)
If you come to an abrupt stop you better have the load very securely tied down for things on the roof!! (I had straps over the rear, but the folded seats stop any forward movement) Not having cross rails installed yet also made this the only option anyway.
#1012 of 1581 Re: Part #s [comem47]
Dec 23, 2009 (12:01 pm)
I always keep an old, thick blanket and use it as a liner/protector inside. Handy.
I snapped that pic after I'd unwrapped and untied the plywood from the roof. I bought 9 sheets (plywood/OSD pre-primed) that day. In the pic I think there were only 4 left.
They were very secure, without a doubt. Something my 1998 model had that I miss was the 4 sturdy handles in the roof rails themselves. They served as excellent tie-downs.
The 2009 has a loop towards the back, but none at the front.
As a trade-off they increased the roof rack capacity to an impressive 175 lbs. I believe the Outlander can carry 110 lbs, still decent.
#1013 of 1581 Re: BT help [ateixeira]
Dec 23, 2009 (2:48 pm)
I replied. We'll see if the poster is still having the problem.
#1014 of 1581 Re: BT help [fushigi]
Dec 23, 2009 (2:55 pm)
I hear the manual is thick as a book, eh? And there's 2 of them?
Have you read it cover-to-cover yet? The holiday break is your chance.
I read the manual on my 1998 Forester and took notes as I went along. I learned 7 things I didn't know. And I'd owned the car for years.
#1015 of 1581 Re: BT help [ateixeira]
Dec 23, 2009 (3:46 pm)
Three, technically .. maintenance, Mitsubishi multicommunication system (MMCS), and the regular owners manual. For Maintenance there's nothing until the first oil change 7500 miles. I've read through the MMCS but will need to read it at least one more time. There are so many different things in it. The regular manual I've read the majority of. It can be skimmed and parts skipped since it covers like 4 different dash designs (regular, GT (maybe XLS), and again in km/Celcius).
#1016 of 1581 Re: BT help [fushigi]
Dec 23, 2009 (6:34 pm)
3? I'm not even sure if that's a good thing, or a bad thing.
My Sienna came with a book-sized manual and a DVD, but the video is mostly to show you how to flip and fold all the seats. 7 of the 8 seats fold, all in different ways!