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Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester

804 messages,  Last post on Nov 26, 2009 at 11:55 AM

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What is this discussion about? Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: Outlander vs. Forester [chelentano] by paisan
Feb 15, 2008 (5:08 pm)
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Replying to: chelentano (Feb 15, 2008 7:38 am)

Sorry I missed it or I would have. As I said, anytime I've actually check on wikki facts, I realized they are just like anything else on the internet, opinion rather than fact so I dismiss most of what is on there as complete crap cause it has no rep.
 
-mike
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Re: Outlander vs. Forester [paisan] by steve_ HOST
Feb 15, 2008 (5:32 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Feb 15, 2008 5:08 pm)

Remember this study in Nature a couple of years back?
 
That's the granddaddy Wikipedia started by individual volunteer contributors Nature is talking about, not the wikicars thing that was started by Internet Brands to tout their own material.
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They look alike by chelentano
Mar 30, 2008 (5:05 pm)
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Features and Specs by chelentano
Apr 05, 2008 (8:58 pm)
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Now since the 2009 Forester is available for sale, let's look at the features and specs comparo for both SUVs. Common features are not mentioned. Blue color indicates data for the 4 cylinder Outlander SE (Special Edition), which is mostly identical to XLS, except for engine and transmission. The Outlander SE would be a counterpart to the Forester LL Bean, I guess.
 
Correct me, if something is not accurate, but the Outlander appears to be a much better deal.
 
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Re: Features and Specs [chelentano] by steve_ HOST
Apr 05, 2008 (9:46 pm)
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Replying to: chelentano (Apr 05, 2008 8:58 pm)

The Edmunds comparison tool for the 08 ES AWD and the 09 2.5X may be of interest.
 
I'm more of a base model guy and would go for the manual tranny non-turbo Forester and the ES Outlander (in real life I might just go for the FWD Mitsu, but for comparison purposes, I looked at the base AWD). Plus there's a stop order on the Forester turbos (Stop Sale).
 
No premium fuel requirements on the base engine Subie either. EPA MPG is 20/26.
 
Best thing the Mitsu has going is the 10 year drivetrain warranty, although the 60k part of it isn't quite as good as the 7/70 I had on my old Voyager. Actually my current Quest came with a 5/60 drivetrain, and I hit 60k during the third year, so Mitsu really should stretch that out a bit to correspond more realistically with typical miles driven a year. Definitely a better basic warranty on the Mitsu.
 
Not sure about the CVT transmissions. I miss having a stick. You'd think a CVT would easily last those 10 years, having fewer parts and all. I'd like to drive one for a couple of days.
 
Crash ratings aren't out for the Forester yet afaik - Outlander does well.
 
Both of them have 16" tires - have you priced tires lately? I don't want to even think about the cost of an 18" or bigger tire with the price of crude these days.
 
I don't tow, but that could be a deal killer for tire kickers.
 
People still use CDs?
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Re: Features and Specs [steve_] by chelentano
Apr 05, 2008 (10:26 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 05, 2008 9:46 pm)

>> I'm more of a base model guy and would go for the manual tranny non-turbo Forester and the ES Outlander.
 
The 4 cylinder Outlander was not available last year, otherwise I would consider it, since I do a heavy urban driving in Chicago, but I’d get the Special Edition - you can get so much car for your dollar.
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>> Plus there's a stop order on the Forester turbos
 
Technical issues, perhaps.
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>> Not sure about the CVT transmissions. I miss having a stick. You'd think a CVT would easily last those 10 years, having fewer parts and all. I'd like to drive one for a couple of days.
 
CVT is shiftable on the Outlander. I believe even paddle shifters are present. The V6 Outlander suppose to get a twin clutch tranny next year, which would be cool.
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>> Both of them have 16" tires - have you priced tires lately? I don't want to even think about the cost of an 18" or bigger tire with the price of crude these days. I don't tow, but that could be a deal killer for tire kickers.
 
Not a concern for me. By the time I need new tires, I get a new car. Otherwise if we commit to drive SUV, be prepared for higher costs of gas, tires, etc.
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>> People still use CDs?
 
Some do. Also these are CD-Rs with MP3 capability. You can stuff so much music into 6 CDs, or you can get the single DVD version Outlander with build-in MP3 music server, Sirius radio and iPod connector.
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Re: Features and Specs [chelentano] by steve_ HOST
Apr 05, 2008 (10:45 pm)
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Replying to: chelentano (Apr 05, 2008 10:26 pm)

Yeah, I'd like to play with paddle shifters too.
 
Ordinarily I wouldn't think too much about this class of vehicle unless you're willing to call them tall wagons, but my sister got a used Forester a year ago and I've enjoyed driving it. It seems a bit more versatile than my Outback in some ways and almost could take the place of our minivan.
 
None of them really get the mpg I'd like to see - I'd really like to get ~25/26 in town and over 30 on the road while still being able to tote bulky camping gear around.
 
The Outlander's tailgate looks interesting too btw.
 
CDs = moving parts = last century. I want an AUX type jack that will accept an MP3 player or USB stick. Give me steering wheel controls that integrate with it too. Oh yeah, while I'm dreaming, make it standard, lol.
 
Not to get too far afield, but have you done a similar comparison with the new CR-V?
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Re: Features and Specs [steve_] by chelentano
Apr 05, 2008 (10:54 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 05, 2008 10:45 pm)

>> CDs = moving parts = last century. I want an AUX type jack that will accept an MP3 player or USB stick. Give me steering wheel controls that integrate with it too. Oh yeah, while I'm dreaming, make it standard too, lol.
 
Yea, and give me a music server with LCD playlist management, which streams my music collection wirelessly off my home PC or off my online storage account. Voice activated, please.
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Re: Features and Specs [steve_] by chelentano
Apr 05, 2008 (10:55 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 05, 2008 10:45 pm)

>> Not to get too far afield, but have you done a similar comparison with the new CR-V?
 
No. I have done it with RAV4 though.
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Re: Features and Specs [steve_] by chelentano
Apr 05, 2008 (11:12 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 05, 2008 10:45 pm)

>>Not to get too far afield, but have you done a similar comparison with the new CR-V?
 
Outlander vs. RAV4

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