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#576 of 585 Re: Sales, resale [ateixeira] by rcpax May 17, 2008 (6:42 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (May 17, 2008 6:06 am) But...the fact is, Honda and Toyota earned that rep.   And also true, a lot of people buy the brand rather than value for money, but as we know, these trusted brand vehicles are not without problems. So they are not superior by default. Replies to this message: kdshapiro (May 17, 2008 9:05 am)
#577 of 585 Re: Sales, resale [ateixeira] by rcpax May 17, 2008 (6:44 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (May 17, 2008 6:06 am) In the US, I think sales are softer. I found 7 left over 2007 models when I went on my test drive. That's not good.   Can you remember the trims on those vehicles? The Outlander sells well on a particular trim than others. Back in 06, XLS was in hot demand, leaving the ES and LS on the lot. Replies to this message: ateixeira (May 17, 2008 10:30 am)
#578 of 585 Re: .. [rcpax] by bigmclargehuge May 17, 2008 (6:49 am)
You throw a temper tantrum over someone making a crack at French brands and call me childish? Thats some fuzzy logic.   I think the Pigeon and the are French econoboxes, so if thats how Mitubishi can reflect their brand, you go ahead and proudly wave that flag.   Don't take it personally.
#579 of 585 Re: Sales, resale [rcpax] by kdshapiro May 17, 2008 (9:05 am)
Replying to: rcpax (May 17, 2008 6:42 am) So they are not superior by default   What these brands have earned is a reputation for reliability, good cars and good customer service (and yes, before we go there, there are always a bunch of complainers who can never be satisified). No brand is without issues, and Mitsubishi convering up issues for 22 years is the head of the pack. People who want to buy any car, know it's a crapshoot as to whether the car *you* get is going to be a good experience. However, with a Honda or Toyotota the odds are in your favor.
#580 of 585 Re: Sales, resale [rcpax] by ateixeira May 17, 2008 (10:30 am)
Replying to: rcpax (May 17, 2008 6:44 am) I think most were XLS actually.   You can check on fitzmall.com, they list the current inventory on-line.   They probably sold a few by now with the incentives.   Rockville Mitsu had a 2007 in the showroom and it was also an XLS. I test drove a 4 cylinder base model though.
#581 of 585 Re: Better according to who? [blitzkrieg79] by ateixeira May 20, 2008 (4:29 am)
Replying to: blitzkrieg79 (May 15, 2008 6:43 am) Nissans ATTESA which is regarded as the best.   Interestingly, I was reading a C&D article about this phenomenal AWD system, and they say it directs power via an electronically controlled clutch pack. Hmm, sounds familiar.   Nissan uses the name "Vehicle Dynamics Control" for their brake-based traction and stability control system. Tunerzine wrote "three-stage adjustability is available for the VDC system and transmission shift operation" so it's adjustable. GT-R World has a YouTube video up and that compares VDC On with VDC Off.   Electronically controlled clutch pack with VDC that you can turn on and off. Cool.   Where have I heard that before?
#582 of 585 JJC335 by jjc335 Jun 23, 2008 (1:04 pm)
I have an 07 Outlander and an 09 llbean forester. My wife drives the forester most of the time,but I just dove it about 800 mile trip and have done so with the Outlander. I will give a list of likes of one over the other.First let me say I am a fan of both vehicles and companies.This our third subaru and my first outlander. This list will be lengthy so I will continue to update it for a while as the differences come to me. The outlander wins in the power department it is the v6 the ll bean is the2.5 4 non turbo. Although the forester was not weak in power It cannot compare the the outlander,when passing or climbing hills the outlander does it with ease and plenty of power.the subie takes a while to pass and shifts way down to get some large hills the tach will hit about 5k while the outlander might not have to downshift or if it does it might go to 5th gear maybe 2.8 k I am shure it does not hurt the subie but I dont like It. The subie corners much better I don't know how they do it but they always amaze me how flat they stay when hard cornering. mpg--the subie does better in city driving but highway they are about the same. I think subies have to have about 15 thousand miles on them before they get their best mileage. so I would it expect it to average about 29 highway this trip it got 27. Thats about my outlander does now It has 17,000 the subie has 4,500. Thats all for now I will try to give more details tommrow. I have many more.
#583 of 585 Rogue vs Forester by dcwestby Jun 27, 2008 (8:28 am)
Why do I title this by that?   Its quite simple. I owned a 08 forester not too long ago and then, through some blundering and floundering [which I wont go into, its a long story], I finally got it sorted out to where I got a Nissan Rogue. I went for a 2wd sl [when I should've gotten that blue awd sl that had less options, sunroof was important].   I disliked the Forester for the roadnoise, I'd like to hear my music not the engine/road thanks, the lack of a tilt function for the sunroof, and the missing 5th gear. While the Forester really was a good rig, there were issues with the center console and my knee.   Fastforward to the Rogue. Perfect mirror placement, I have larger blindspot mirrors and the mirrors turned outward 10 degrees and takes care of the blindspots. I prefer to think of the larger D pillar as a safety promotion issue for when changing lanes or passing.   The outlander I havent even test drove yet, but I do like the features they have on their offerings, and at least they have a cvt.   Speaking of cvts, Nissan has got those down pretty well. Something Subaru US should pay attention to... Really? 4 speed autos in this day and age? cvts are far more efficient and are on demand power instantly.   I would like to say that first time I had a cvt it was in a ford freestyle, and going from that to the forester was a bit disconcerting. I've test driven the Altima, sentra and Rogue and also the 09 forester twice. I just really enjoy both legroom and headroom with the Nissans. I have far more to say, but I'll end here for now. Replies to this message: dcwestby (Jun 27, 2008 2:37 pm) ateixeira (Jun 30, 2008 8:50 am)
#584 of 585 Re: Rogue vs Forester [dcwestby] by dcwestby Jun 27, 2008 (2:37 pm)
Replying to: dcwestby (Jun 27, 2008 8:28 am) Thought I did, but apparently I dont.. and considering this is in the forester forum, I'd rather not get too carried away...
#585 of 585 Re: Rogue vs Forester [dcwestby] by ateixeira Jun 30, 2008 (8:50 am)
Replying to: dcwestby (Jun 27, 2008 8:28 am) Congrats on your new Rogue.   CR just rated all 3 of these (Forester XT and X, Mitsu Outlander 2.4l, Rogue) and rated the Subie on top.   The Rogue did stand out among base 4 cylinder models for its acceleration.

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