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Honda Accord, Sedan
#65 of 317 Re: What happened? [gooddeal2]
Jul 20, 2008 (4:24 pm)
I'm absolutely in love with the Intelligent key/push button start combination in my Altima. I just push the button on the door handle to unlock the car, sit in the seat, put my foot on the brake, push the start button, and Vrooom... It's so awesome! It's made me lazy too. I don't even reach for my keys anymore when I get home. I just expect that the door will unlock because I'm in proximity of the door...
oh, and you CAN'T lock the key in the car if you use the remote only. The car will sense that the key is still in the car and keep you from making a stupid mistake. It's also really cool to toss the key in the trunk and close the trunk... only for it to immediately pop back open. It makes for a great party trick.
#66 of 317 Re: What happened? [madpistol]
Jul 21, 2008 (5:43 pm)
Beyond the cool factor, what exactly is the benefit over using a traditional key?
#67 of 317 Re: What happened? [cstiles]
Jul 23, 2008 (3:44 pm)
Don't have to get any key out to get into your car or start the vehicle.
Walk up to the car, open the door, get in, push the button to start. Saves you reaching into your pocket to find your key, push the unlock button, the putting the key in the ignition switch and turning the key.
Some people love it, some take it or leave it, some couldn't be bothered, some think it's more that can go wrong, some wouldn't spend a dime for it.
#68 of 317 Re: What happened? [kiawah]
Jul 24, 2008 (8:00 am)
My 2005 Acura RL has keyless start and all of the features you described. Plus, it remembers me and sets personal settings (seat, steering wheel, audio, climate control, etc.) each time it recognizes my keyless. Since I'm 6'4" and my wife is 5'7", there are some benefits to each of us having our own settings.
As you said, "some people love it, some take it or leave it, some couldn't be bothered, some think it's more that can go wrong, some wouldn't spend a dime for it." The entire gamut of opinions.
Personally, I think it's technology for the sake of technology, and prefer that the 2009 Accord did NOT offer keyless start. It's unnecessary. Just my 2 cents after having it for 3 years now.
There are similar debates about the benefits of i-drive, COMAND, and other "intelligent" systems.
I prefer to drive my cars, rather than "interface" with them.
#69 of 317 Re: What happened? [cstiles]
Jul 24, 2008 (2:20 pm)
I remember reading a review of the Altima, where the reviewer said he had to hold the start button down for quite a while, before the engine actually started. He made it clear that push button start was not a good point about the car in his opinion.
#70 of 317 Re: What happened? [cstiles]
Jul 25, 2008 (5:33 am)
You're right....push button start runs the gamut. I've got it on my 3 Series. It's one of those things I could easily do without. I'm sure it's something the sales people "tout" as a cool feature when trying to sell you a new car. But, I have no issues whatsoever in inserting a key and twisting it to start the car.
One downside (big downside) is when you have to replace or recharge the battery in the keyless start fob. In the BMW, you have to plug the FOB into a slot in the dash for a recharge. If power is totally exhausted, you have to then reprogram the fob and the car's settings so the car recognizes it.
What's the point? You have to pull the fob out of your pocket. Plug it in. Then hit the button. Worse....if the battery has to be replaced, you need to reprogram everything, again. And, you still have to dig out the "emergency" key from the FOB, anyway.
I would imagine other systems are similar.
Give me a simple key to twist and I'd be happier.
#71 of 317 Re: What happened? [graphicguy]
Jul 25, 2008 (12:11 pm)
Sounds like too much crap to remember. I've never understand why everybody tries to "save" time with all the new technology, when generally through the effort of saving time we have to waste time, by say reprogramming the bugger. Sure some of it is nice and useful, but like you said I'd rather have a key that I can jam into the car and start. Push button is just another thing to have fail at the worst time.
#72 of 317 Re: What happened? [tankbeans]
Jul 26, 2008 (6:19 am)
tank....agreed. While I know some think it's cool to just have to push a button to start, or grab a door handle to unlock, when things go awry (like when the FOB needs to be recharged, or needs a new battery), it's been a royal PITA.
Gimme a key to stick into the ignition and a little twist to start. I don't have to worry about whether I've got enough juice in my FOB.
Funny...when I bought my BMW, I thought the push button start was kind of cool, like others. A few months later, when my FOB had no power, I couldn't unlock the car. There was a little emergency key in the FOB I used to unlock the car. But, after plugging the FOB into the little slot to recharge, I found I had to reprogram the FOB (through a series of crazy routines to get the car to recognize I had the correct FOB). What should have taken two seconds with a normal key, took 15 minutes to get the car to start and drive away (including digging through the manual to read up on the "dead FOB battery" routine).
I relayed the story to my service tech at BMW. He chuckled and said..."well, the best way to keep that from happening again is to plug the FOB into the recharge slot everytime you drive it".
OK....so now, instead of just fishing out a key out of my pocket and twisting it, now I fish out my FOB, plug it into the "slot". Then, push the start button.
Again, what's the point?