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#104 of 176 Re: Oil consumption & TSBs [seattle11]
Apr 15, 2013 (4:16 am)
My oil light never came on when the oil was low. It wasn't until my wife mentioned the light come on when she came to a stop, but it went off right away.
The manual even suggests that this may happen and that there is no need to worry, just address it right away.
When I checked the oil at that point, it didn't register on the dip stick. I bought oil thinking is was just under the point of touching the dip stick but was shocked when it actually took 4 quarts. That means it was dry and the light didn't stay on!
So, not only did my RAV burn oil but the monitoring system didn't do anything to warn the operator.
I hope that someday Toyota will take responsibility for this poor product. I too was a very happy owner until this happened. I had my oil changed regularly and I'll admit I may have driven past the 5000 mile mark a few times but to have an empty reservoir is totally ridiculous given the new technology. Even the oil manufacturers are improving the oil to the point that auto manufacturers are looking to extend required change intervals. In one article I read, Toyota was on the top of the list of manufacturers that support longer intervals. How can that be?
I'll say it again; Toyota had a design change for the 4 cylinder engine that involved pistons and rings. The TSB solution is to monitor and repair as necessary. The repair is to replace...you guessed it...the pistons and rings. BRILLIANT!
#105 of 176 Re: Oil consumption & TSBs [ravnmad]
May 02, 2013 (5:55 pm)
I noticed the exact same problem that you mentioned on May 2 2013 with oil light not coming on and monitoring system not picking up that the oil was low when i checked the dip stick it did not have a drop of oil on it. I drive a 2007 rav4. I took mine to the Toyota dealer ship they are going to do a 1200 mile oil consumption test. There is no reason why it should be burning that much oil. Is Toyota going to fix your problem? I have called the National Traffic and safety Administration and made a complaint. If they get enough people calling in making complaints they will do an investigation which could result in a recall.
#106 of 176 Re: Oil consumption & TSBs [mag75]
May 03, 2013 (6:38 am)
I already contacted NTSA, EPA (for combused oil polution) and JD Power and the local news station. Toyota will not take responsibility for this. It cost me the price of a replacement engine (>$5000).
I hope others have better luck getting support. I will never buy another Toyota. I know it's trivial compared to their annual sales but it's still one less sale I was going to make until this happened.
#107 of 176 Re: Oil consumption & TSBs [ravnmad]
May 04, 2013 (6:58 am)
Is it possible that not all vehicles with VINs listed will not have an issue with oil consumption? So far, first 1200 miles has shown no loss of oil.
#108 of 176 Re: Oil consumption & TSBs [ravnmad]
May 04, 2013 (9:14 am)
Sorry that you had to come out of pocket. My dealer paid for everything including a rental car for 7 days while it was being repaired.
I have since traded my 2008 Rav 4 and bought another Rav 4.
I think it depends on what dealer you have but I would continue to fight this because Toyota should be taking care of this.
#109 of 176 Re: Oil consumption & TSBs [lizzie07]
May 06, 2013 (4:31 am)
I suppose it's possible that some engines perform better than others because it's a mechanical tolerance that causes the blow through of oil.
I agree with lizzie07 in that a GOOD dealer would want to support their customer and push back to Toyota. In my case, the dealer made me feel like it was all my fault and that they didn't have a clue about this condition.
It seems that this happens more progressively as the vehicle approaches the 50-60k mile mark. Regardless, my oil light never came on but once and the reservoir was empty by then and the damage was done. Bottom line is that any vehicle that consumes oil that much with todays technology is just a poor design. In this case, Toyota realizes the design flaw but opts to pick and choose who they help starting with whether you had your vehicle seviced by Toyota or not (which is against the law according to the Magnuson Moss Warraty Act).
#110 of 176 Re: Oil consumption & TSBs [ravnmad]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
May 06, 2013 (4:55 am)
"Before you say "hey, that's not fair" keep this in mind: why should the dealer offer any help on the manufacturer's behalf to customers that are not loyal to the dealer when having their vehicle maintenance performed? If you service your vehicle through an independent or aftermarket facility, what does the manufacturer owe you in terms of assistance?"
Different story if your vehicle is still under warranty.
The Secret Warranty
How Can a Technical Service Bulletin Help Me?
#111 of 176 sold my 2007 Rav4
May 06, 2013 (11:45 am)
Just sold my 2007 Rav4. Goodbye TOYOTA and GoodBye Dealership.... who thinks burning one quart of oil per 1200 miles is OK. I am glad I am out of this before my engine or O2 sensor blow out. Just got a 2013 Honda CRV. Good Luck to all fo you.
#112 of 176 replaced one engine RAV4, 2nd one going fast
May 06, 2013 (4:50 pm)
Hi, I had same oil consumption issues listed above and at 99,000 miles had my engine replaced under my extended warranty (which everyone laughed at me originally for buying) with a used engine (under 20,000 miles). I started having some issues about 11,000 miles after engine was replaced. I now have 133,000 miles on my car and altho the dealership has been great working with me and has done another oil consumption test, it's too late to get the engine replaced under now expired 12,000 mile warranty. The oil consumption test showed that there is engine failure. I have taken the advice from one of the bloggers above and emailed a complaint to the Nat'l Highway Traffic Safety Administration so they could start an investigation which will hopefully lead to a recall. I noticed Camrys from 2007-08 are having same problems. I feel like I just lost the blue book value on my car. Who is going to buy it?
#113 of 176 Re: oil consumption on '07 Rav4 [sparkley]/TSF
May 10, 2013 (4:06 am)
A favor to ask: could you please post the TSB (Toyota Service Bulletin) listing that you obtained regarding this particular issue, including all of the affected VIN #'s? I found the 2007 Rav4 TSB online toyotaproblems.com, but it did not list this issue.
Thank you very much in advance,