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83 Audi 5000s

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Re: 83 audi 5000 P.O.S. [texases] by iridebmx65
Feb 09, 2008 (3:34 am)
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Replying to: texases (Feb 06, 2008 7:45 am)

a 90 corolla huh?
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Re: 83 Audi 5000s [hpmctorque] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Feb 09, 2008 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Feb 06, 2008 7:42 am)

Audis are wonderful cars in many ways, but they are a pain in the butt. They were a pain in the butt then, and still are. Expensive to fix, glitchy as all get out, and not all that exciting to drive except for the few $$$ road-burners they make.
 
When the 5000s first came to the US, they caught a lot of attention----the styling was quite startling next to the boxy Americans and Japanese cars, and the cars Quattro system (if you ordered it) coupled to the 5000s luxury was irresistible to the ski set.
 
But problems soon arose, and they weren't small problems. In one case, engine oil would contaminate the gearboxes, and destroy both of them simultaneously----nice, eh? Parts were expensive, as in VERY expensive (still are-- how about new headlight assemblies for $1000 bucks a pop?), and dealers often dualed with VW, meaning maybe one Audi tech for ten VW techs.
 
Even today, many independent "German" repair shops won't touch an Audi.
 
The Quattro system is fabulous and near bulletproof and revolutionized AWD in passenger vehicles, but otherwise Audi's bad reputation in America is well-deserved, even without the "sudden acceleration" scandal that probably had no basis in fact.
 
You can buy an old 80s Audi, or you can drive a steak knife into your forehead and get the same effect. The choice is yours.
 
Just my two cents but that's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
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Re: 83 Audi 5000s [Mr_Shiftright] by iridebmx65
Feb 11, 2008 (2:52 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 09, 2008 9:06 am)

well i must say i do agree with what you said and learned a bit about the 5000, my mother has an 1989 Audi 90 Quattro and her clutch went out...... to make a long story short two weeks later and nearly $1200 later we finally got it fixed. yeah Audi's most certainly have many glitches and problems i wont be buying this another one unless i build it from ground up. anyway i found two hoses that one side connects into the intake manifold but the other ends don't lead to anything. i couldnt find anything they would attach to so i blocked them with tape as a temporary solution. now it starts real nice and stays started. still hesitates up until 3000 rpm so there has to be something else. i have two people interested in buying it, one person came by today for a drive, he said he would pay for a mechanic to take a look at it.... i'm praying it wont be nothing serious. i'll let you know wat happens. thanks again for your help. this time i'm buyin a BMW!!!!!!!
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Re: 83 Audi 5000s [iridebmx65] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Feb 11, 2008 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: iridebmx65 (Feb 11, 2008 2:52 am)

Yep, get a nice 80s era 325 and be happy.
 
Or if you really like these big Audis, get a Turbo Quattro Wagon, and then you'll have something worth putting some money into.
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Audi 5000s by popqueen
Jul 16, 2009 (11:01 am)
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From the previous posts, I don't know if anyone will even give this the time of day, but here goes. My '83 has 2 problems. I replaced the rack and pinion in may 09. It runs, steers fine. Upon a high speed freeway drive I came home, parked it, and later saw it had a fluid leak, (like before). The leak is at the fill tank, (not at the rack) which totally mounts on top near the firewall. It is spraying out from the tiny hole in the cap. It doesn't occur around town, only on freeway driving, and only after it sits. I don't get it. The shop and I thought it was a successful repair with the new rack. Anybody have a clue as to what could be happening now?
Next problem, the car starts really hard, with one key turn but it sputters and takes 2-5 minutes to run smooth, and will not move in drive until then. I've checked the plugs, wires and cap & rotor, but not replaced them yet. Also the car passed smog with good numbers even though it started weird like this. I don't get it, it's just acting bad upon the initial cold start.
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Re: Audi 5000s [popqueen] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jul 16, 2009 (2:41 pm)
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Replying to: popqueen (Jul 16, 2009 11:01 am)

i *think* your PS pump has a pressure relief valve to prevent excess pressure....or maybe just the cap seal is bad?
 
As for hard starts, that could be a gazillion things, but by all means check tune up parts.
 
Also, look for a vacuum leak in the "bellows" at that comes off the fuel distributor---look way down underneath it.
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Re: Audi 5000s [Mr_Shiftright] by burdawg
Jul 17, 2009 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 16, 2009 2:41 pm)

If the fluid is foamy in the resevoir I would think that there's still air trapped in the system, causing the fluid to foam up and get forced out of the breather hole in the cap.
That poor running after start up sounds like classic cold start compensator problems to me, since it sounds like it starts right up with one hit on the starter. That pretty much rules out serious ignition or tune problems. Is an 83 still carbureted? If it's fuel injected what type of injection? Bosch CIS mechanical? Or is electronic multi port?
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Re: Audi 5000s [burdawg] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jul 17, 2009 (7:52 am)
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Replying to: burdawg (Jul 17, 2009 6:22 am)

Yeah that's a good idea. If that system has a separate fuel injector perhaps for cold starts, or a cold start sensor? But it's a good idea to at least check the basics in any cold start issue. A rule of thumb, which is sometimes wrong, is that a hard cold start = ignition and hard hot-start = fuel problem.
 
Another idea I had was that if you had a leaking injector, the car would start right up but run ragged until the excess fuel from the leaking down the night before, burned off.
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Re: Audi 5000s [burdawg] by fintail
Jul 17, 2009 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: burdawg (Jul 17, 2009 6:22 am)

I am pretty sure those are FI.
 
I remember several years ago a guy tried to sell me a 5000, I think it was an 82. It was in really decent cosmetic condition, but it ran weird - I took it for a short drive just for the hell of it. It seemed to run rich - not easy to start, and you could smell the fumes...FI must have been out of adjustmennt. I could have had it for maybe $800...but I need that like I need a hole in my head. You barely see those things on the road anymore. If I wanted one, it would have to be turbo, for the full maintenance drama effect.
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Re: Audi 5000s [fintail] by texases
Jul 17, 2009 (8:15 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 17, 2009 8:30 am)

Yes, I think that had similar FI to my '83 GTI, and it also had that enrichment injector, I think. The Bentley manual would be a good thing to get

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