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Sedans Pontiac G8 Article Comments - 2008 Pontiac G8 GT First Look and Full Test
99 messages, Last post on Apr 26, 2009 at 2:16 PM
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First Look: 2008 Pontiac G8 GT - There wouldn't be much to talk about if the G8 was just another V6-powered family sedan, so Pontiac did itself a favor and made sure that a V8 is on the options list. If you order the big engine, it's called the G8 GT. (more)
Full Test: 2008 Pontiac G8 GT - Bottom Line: This is the Pontiac we've all been waiting for. (more)
Okay, for starters, no manual is a deal breaker. And I don't want to have to spend another $6 Large just to get it...in fact, I won't spend it. They should have been a little more subdued on the restyle. The cheesy honeycomb grill and faux hood scoops look like they were lifted right off a 1977 Formula Firebird (at least they didn't put a screaming chicken on the hood!)  How many european sports sedans do you see with fake hood scoops? I could care less about the lack of a nav system. $2-3,000 will buy a lot of maps, and I have a hand-held GPSr that does the job just fine, even if it doesn't talk to me. The price is right, the dynamics seem good. Just give us a choice of trannys, Pontiac! Yes, us Americans are a lazy, shiftless lot (pun intended). Manuals account for only 7% of the cars sold here, compared to something like 70% in Europe. Lazy, lazy people we are! 
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Replying to: wideglide (Apr 20, 2008 8:14 pm) Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Apr 21, 2008 2:50 am) 
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Replying to: wideglide (Apr 21, 2008 4:13 am) Also, I hope Pontiac makes some necessary changes to the interior of their 2009 G8 base, GT, and GXP models by using fully-powered front seats (no more knobs for the tilt adjustment), fold-down rear seats, a tach with a red-line, and XM radio.
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Replying to: rayainsw (Apr 02, 2008 9:32 am) You need to get those old bones filed down and get a proper transmission in that Vette, man!
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Replying to: rayainsw (Apr 03, 2008 8:21 am) It doesn't take much engineering or programming to equip a car with a manual transmission. I think it's the other way around. The manual buyers are subsidizing you slushbox guys' fancy-smancy paddle shifters and "blip on downshift" automatic transmissions.
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Replying to: jpstax1 (Apr 22, 2008 12:43 pm) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Apr 29, 2008 8:25 am) Manual buyers are not subsidizing the auto buyers. In nearly every car with a manual and automatic option, the buyer of the auto is paying a big premium. On a Corvette, the auto is a $1,250 option. If I remember correctly, Corvette sells in volumes in the 30K range each year. If 60% of them are auto's, those auto buyers have paid GM $25 million that GM would not have had if they bought sticks. So no, I do not think the manual buyers are subsidizing auto trannies. Now keep in mind, this is but one, low volume car too. |
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I've been doing a bunch of reading today on the G8. On paper, this car looks like a screaming deal. Very good handling, good acceleration, modern 6 speed tranny, modern platform, all for approximately $30K. I know the car is large, but man, I would much sooner buy a loaded G8 GT at just under $33K than I would pay the same or more money for, say, the new STi (I know they are not direct competitors). Lack of a stick shift seems fairly glaring however. Even if the GXP gets one, the GXP is going to have a good premium tacked on too. It would still be nice to have a stick available with this V8, if not the V6 too.
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Replying to: fformula88 (May 03, 2008 1:03 pm) 535ix is about the only one out there and that's got a $60k pricetag. Here are the "large sedans" with V8s that I seem to see as competitors to the G8 that have MT. BMW 550i CTS-V Competitors with ATs expand a bit: 300/Charger 5 Series M45 S-Type GS460 MB E-Class STS A6 Out of those only the Charger comes in even remotely close in terms of price. So if you want a sporty car in this segment, you pay >$45k or get a Charger or a G8. That's a pretty good place to be I think. -mike |
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