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#309 of 357 markcincinnati & other A4 owners
Jun 28, 2009 (10:38 am)
The lease on my wife's '07 X3 3.0siA isn't up until NEXT July, but the government's cash for clunkers has got me thinking. While our X3 is far from a clunker, my 1990 E30 BMW 325iA (83,000 miles) fits the definition according to the EPA's website (It is less than 25 years old and gets a combined 18 mpg). So as long as I replace my E30 (which I bought as a project car last April) with a new car that gets an EPA combined 22 mpg or higher, I'll get $3,500 as a trade in credit.
A few cars fit the bill that have made my short list: Honda Accord EXL-V6 NAV, Acura TSX V6 TECH (I think), the Volkswagen Passat, & the A4 2.0T Quattro.
The car we get will replace my wife's X3 as her car (my 2001 Honda Prelude Type SH has over 112,500 miles and will be with us for quite some time). So the 2 biggest criteria we will be looking for is interior space & trunk space. We have 2 very handsome men under the age of 3 (One will be 3 in September & the other is 3 months old) and she has a "side by side" double stroller she brings everywhere with her. The thing that caught my eye about the A4 (other than the 258 lb-ft torque FSI turbo engine) is the seemingly gigantic trunk.
mark: I've been following your posts for years & have tremendous respect for your opinions about Audis & driving in general. I think your wife still has an X3 if I'm not mistaken. How would you compare the trunk space of the X3 (seats up) to the trunk space of your A4?
The thing that concerns me about Audi is their reliablity & dealer network. My Mom had an '02 A6 3.0 Quattro that had a transmission issue that was never resolved in the 3 years she leased the car. The dealer (PALISADES AUDI in West Nyack, NY) was just plain awful (3 week wait for service appointments, 4 week + wait if you need a loaner car) and Audi customer service wasn't much better. After complaining about the transmission NUMEROUS times, we were granted time to see the regional customer service guy. The guy backed the car out of the parking spot it was in, drove it maybe 15 feet to another parking spot, got out, and said there is no problem with the car.
The A4 I'm interested in for my wife would be a 2.0T Quattro with Automatic & the S-Line Package. I'm eager to hear everyone's opinion!
#310 of 357 Re: markcincinnati & other A4 owners [nyccarguy]
Jun 29, 2009 (12:08 pm)
We have both a 2008 X3 and a 2009 A4 2.0T quattro.
The space in the A4's trunk is the same as or slightly bigger than the X3 -- at least if you move things between the cars as we do sometimes. There is, however, a difference in how they get their space.
The X3 isn't as deep but it is taller.
It seems to me the A4 is deeper, less tall and a "smidge" wider.
Both have flat floors.
If hauling, with the seats down, was what you would be doing, perhaps the X3, overall, would seem to swallow more.
The driving experience of these two vehicles is similar, but the X3 shows its age -- the steering seems a bit more sluggish than the A4 (but our A4 has ADS plus the 19" sport package; while our X3 has the SAV package which offers 18" wheels and tires but no sport suspension -- both cars have servotronic steering but the Audi has adaptive steering, the X3 does not.)
The X3 is great. It seems "older" technology wise, however. A bit more truck like.
The A4 is fresh and is brimming with brand new technology -- it steers and can respond like a "go cart."
Both cars were north of $48,000. Both have maintenance included. The torque of the A4 is the winner in performance. The X3's engine is, well, it is a BMW engine -- it is, however, lower in torque and it is quite thirsty.
You will not dislike either vehicle -- if you want, "the best of both worlds, however, get a brand new Q5 -- it feels more like an A4 but it is like a newer technology X3 -- with this meant in the most flattering way one could mean.
The new Audi (2010) will even have 3G MMI, mine, alas, has 2G MMI -- not a huge improvement, but a significant one nonetheless.
Test drive them both (the A4 and the Q5). Now, however, the new Q5 will have more power than the current X3, but the torque of the Q5's V6 is 15 foot pounds lower than that of the A4's 2.0T i4.
Report back, if you would, please.
#311 of 357 Re: markcincinnati & other A4 owners [markcincinnati]
Jun 29, 2009 (7:44 pm)
Thanks for your quick reply. Your feedback helps a lot. I've always thought our X3's trunk space is a bit too narrow and a little too short (believe me, we make due). The X3 puts a premium on rear passenger space over trunk space.
We have an X3 now (metallic paint, rear climate pkg, heated front seats, bluetooth/BMW Assist). My wife likes it but thinks she wants a car for her next car and not an SUV. The seats are always up due to the fact we have 2 car seats buckled into the LATCH system.
The Q5 looks like a nice truck. I'm starting to see more of them around, but it doesn't meet the fuel economy requirements (22 city/highway combined) for me to get the $3,500 cash for clunkers credit.
I am excited to go over to the dealer and test drive the car.
#312 of 357 Avant Test Drive
Jul 05, 2009 (8:33 pm)
Drove the A4 Avant Friday afternoon at New Country Audi of Greenwich, CT. Interior is drop dead gorgeous. The ride was compliant & smooth, but not floaty. Didn't get to "get on the gas" because the test drive loop was pretty short. Our side by side double stroller fit in the back and space seemed comparable to our X3.
I just don't know about the wagon. The rear glass of the car is so raked to make it sporty that it almost defeats the purpose. Maybe when I take my wife to look at the car we'll check out a Q5 too.
I might forgo cash 4 clunkers and wait till the lease is up on our X3 next July. Maybe by then the Twin Turbo X3 will be out & the Audi Q5 2.0T will be out. I'm still considering an E60 5er as well.
#313 of 357 My Audi A4 (a girl's perspective)
Jul 12, 2009 (10:05 pm)
I just bought a brand new Audi A4 about a month and a half ago. Aside from a fuel pump problem requiring 3 trips to the dealership to fix, it's cute and it's good. I know nothing about cars, but it's the amenities and the style that are important to me. But I have to say that I love the way this car handles. If I can avoid speeding tickets, I'll be golden.
I love love love the amenities. The sound system is awesome. The navigation is scarily accurate. The backup camera is a total lifesaver. I suck at parking, so this is easily one of the coolest and best features on the car. The beeps have saved me from denting my car already. I am now addicted to my Sirius radio and love the ability to plug my iphone in and play my music. The bluetooth feature also works perfectly.
I'm hoping that all will continue to run well (minus a little hiccup with the fuel pump) but so far, it's the style and the amenities I love the most.
#314 of 357 Re: My Audi A4 (a girl's perspective) [lagirl2]
Jul 13, 2009 (5:28 am)
On the subject of parking, have you noticed the feature that rotates the right mirror down to see the curb when in reverse? The mirror selection knob has to be turned to the right for it to work.
#315 of 357 Re: My Audi A4 (a girl's perspective) [lagirl2]
Jul 13, 2009 (6:30 am)
Very GOOD to know! Thanks!
#316 of 357 Re: My Audi A4 (a girl's perspective) [fglamser]
Jul 13, 2009 (5:14 pm)
Really? OMG. I'm going to go try that out. Thanks a lot!
I love discovering all the new stuff on the car. I should've read the manual, but it's so thick that I can't really get past the few things that interest me.
#317 of 357 Re: Road/wind noise [fglamser]
Jul 13, 2009 (5:23 pm)
Agreed. My car is very quiet, too. (I do live in a big city, though.) My sunroof isn't loud, although my music is usually very loud when I'm bumping down the highway with the sunroof open. So I may not notice it if it is...
Nothing about new cars really surprises me anymore, though. If that poster had a problem with something it may be par for the course in a new car.
#318 of 357 2009 A4 2.0T Motor oil
Jul 20, 2009 (6:50 am)
Did anyone have an issue with the oil? Brought my car at the dealer from october of last year to present maybe about 5 times (including the first service) just for the oil. I've never heard such a thing n they kept on telling me that all german cars burn a lot of oil, well any BMW owners, do u have the same issues with the oil too? and plus they expect me to buy and top the oil every month to a BRAND NEW CAR!!!! Isn't that rediculous!!!!