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Re: CVT vs. Automatic [s0l0] by richardnva
Apr 13, 2009 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: s0l0 (Apr 02, 2009 4:19 pm)

fglamser,
I had A6 with a CVT and I loved it. The driving sensation is almost like being pulled by a cable... think rollercoaster (I had one person describe it like an aircraft carrier pulley but I've never taken off in an aircraft carrier so I don't know how accurate that is). It's different in a very good way. Since the transmission is continously adjusting, there aren't any noticable shifts up or down, just a nice smooth drive. On paper, the CVT should have better gas mileage and I was very happy with the average MPG on my A6. Hope that helps.
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Re: Timing? [art234] by markcincinnati
Apr 22, 2009 (1:47 pm)
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Replying to: art234 (Apr 12, 2009 7:58 pm)

When you come to a stop the engine shuts off, all electrical appliances keep running and when you press the accelerator it starts "seamlessly" and you save petrol.
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Re: A6 3.0 vs. A4 3.2 [barryend] by rjlaero
Apr 22, 2009 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: barryend (Apr 10, 2009 7:36 am)

Audi just killed off the 3.2 for 2010. Only 2.0T's will be made.
 
Makes sense. So few 3.2 models were sold it doesn't justify the cost of production.
 
Audi made the 2.0T "too good" w/ all that torque. The 3.2 is a little throatier and has a painted black grill. But other than that, the 2.0T is a more fun to drive, IMO and gets better mileage.
 
If somebody threw me the keys to a 2.0T and 3.2 to drive for free, I'd probably take the 2.0T in 09 form.
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2010 Audi A4 by art234
Apr 22, 2009 (4:27 pm)
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I just drove the A4 2.0T again and had my wife drive it. This looks like the choice for us. I am going to order a 2010 however because I can get it in July, closer to when my current lease is up, and I learned the 3rd generation MMI and Nav from the Q5 will be incorporated into the A4 for 2010--and I prefer to have traffic and hard drive.
 
Pricing is TBD but it appears I will just get the car exactly the way I want it.
The only conundrum for me is whether or not to get Drive Select--I am basically happy with the car without--what do you all think?
 
Thanks!
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Re: 2010 Audi A4 [art234] by barryend
Apr 22, 2009 (5:25 pm)
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Replying to: art234 (Apr 22, 2009 4:27 pm)

Since Monday I have been driving an 09 A4 2.0 Premium (not plus loaner) while my wife's A4 3.2 was in the shop. We had moderate rain. I drove the Hutchinson River and Cross County Parkways in Westchester County, NY. I was very satisfied with the standard suspension. The steering is very light at low speeds but tightens up and seems quicker at highway speed. The ride and handling was excellent if not sporty.
 
As I previously mentioned I soon expect a 2009 A4 2.0 Premium Plus with sport package suspension, 18" wheels inc. summer tires. After my three day experience I realized the sport package is not that necessary. It may be a serious comfort trade off when driving to Manhattan or the bumpy boroughs. But a plus driving north on the Taconic or to VT. I will need snow tires and maybe extra wheels. My wife might complain about the ride also. The drive select is the best of both worlds I suppose. I believe it includes 18" wheels and all season tires rather than summer tires.
 
I know this answer is not completely to the point but drive select is a rare option I do not have. Maybe audiforums dotcom has some members posting experiences. They have international membership. Or you can post a request for comments there . I think NY Times recently tested one with drive select and was very favorable.
 
You are building a $50,000 Audi A4 so a dealer who has one to test should give you the red carpet treatment. Maybe a full day test.
 
The more options the lower the residual. So you might also consider a Jaguar, A6, BMW or Mercedes. The residual may be better on a more expensive car rather than gilding the lily on an A4. Just my opinion.
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Re: 2010 Audi A4 [barryend] by art234
Apr 23, 2009 (3:32 am)
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Replying to: barryend (Apr 22, 2009 5:25 pm)

Barry,
 
At this point, I am going to buy the car. The new tax laws allowing deduction of the sales tax and interest on a car loan make that option very attractive. The A6, while beautiful, is just more car than I need right now. The dealer is working with me on price, I just have to decide how I want the car built--with or without ADS.
 
I'll keep you all posted.
 
Thanks.
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Re: 2010 Audi A4 [art234] by barryend
Apr 23, 2009 (4:26 am)
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Replying to: art234 (Apr 23, 2009 3:32 am)

Good move. When my car comes in I will ask about buying also. Problem is I use mine for business. Depreciation is very limited for any amount over a pittance. It is a luxury car subject to unfavorable treatment.
 
You might find a loaded demo to buy. Maybe a dealer'ship owner's car. Not too many Prestige, nav, drive select to be had.
 
Remember, the stimulus package caps income limits for the deductions eligibility. I think 125,000/250,000 a couple.
 
Big plus not to pay lease bank fee, termination fee and rip off assessments for minor dings at lease termination. Audi Credit views their final inspection as a profit point opportunity. Very unfriendly.
 
We just bought my wife's A4 3.2 2007 before 30 month lease end. Dealer sold it well under residual, Certified it for 100,000 guarantee and 3-yr. 1.9% loan. She will retire and no longer commute. It should last along time.
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Re: 2010 Audi A4 [barryend] by art234
Apr 23, 2009 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: barryend (Apr 23, 2009 4:26 am)

Thanks Barry--the reason I am waiting for 2010 is to get the 3G MMI. I need nav traffic and the hard drive. If the new one didn't have it I'd be going back to BMW, but the 3 series is just too small.
 
I just can't wait to be done with the Infiniti.
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Re: 2010 Audi A4 & Audi Drive Select by markcincinnati
Apr 23, 2009 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: art234 (Apr 22, 2009 4:27 pm)

First, a disclaimer:
 
Those who do not have ADS will, almost to a person, tell you "you don't need it."
 
Those who do have ADS will, almost to a person, tell you - "don't leave home without it."
 
Having said this, I have the following configuration:
 
2009 A4 2.0T Prestige level/quattro
 
o Ibis (white)
o Cardamom (beige)
o Almond Wood inlays
 
o Tiptronic
o 19" Sport package (S Line "light")
o Navigation/Camera package
o Power op rear sunshade/manual rear side shades
o Audi Drive Select
o Audi pre-paid maintenance
 
I replaced the factory summer only tires with Yoko's Advan S4 UHP all-seasons.
 
The sticker on the car was ~$49,650.
 
I have about 8,000 miles on the car (picked it up in October.)
 
Have had the first service interval and other than the tire swap, nuttin'. . . .
 
I traded in a nearly all optioned 2005 A6 3.2.
 
I have had 28 or 29 Audis since 1977. Pretty much, you name it, I have had it (or if not me, my wife.)
 
Whattya wanna know about ADS and ADS with a configuration such as the one outlined above?
 
My thoughts: "everyone would get ADS if it were $1,000 less."
 
Again, whattya wanna know?
 
I set my individual preference (which is one of the four settings) to:
 
Dynamic steering
Dynamic engine and transmission
Auto suspension
 
Every option can be: Comfort, Auto, or Dynamic in Individual Mode.
 
The three set parms are: Comfort for everything, Auto for everything or Dynamic for everything.
 
I rarely use Dynamic -- although when I do, I must say it is an absolute BLAST!
 
I typically use Individual and when I hit the Interstate for a long jaunt, I set it to Comfort and set the cruise control to "prevailing conditions and speeds."
 
The character of the car is different in each mode and will improve either the comfort or the "compliance" of the car based on how it is set and how you drive.
 
With the 19" x 255 x 35 tires, the availability of Comfort mode pretty much eliminates the bone jarring effects of such a low profile set of shoes.
 
Then when I want to "play" the car can be "a snake in a rat hole" in the twisties.
 
Now, at 8,000 miles the car has just reached its third break in and this thing seems to have even more torque than it did at 5,000 miles (which is to say it feels, at times, "limitless.")
 
ADS is expensive -- it may be too expensive, but now that I have it, I would not want to go without.
 
I love the look of the 19" wheels but I am NOT a fan of Summer Only shoes and that, more than anything else, ticked me off -- I should be able to get what I want from the factory rather than having to rebuy tires on a new car.
 
Again, to not go on about something you are not interested in, "whattya wanna know?"
 
Drive it like you live.

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