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Re: 09' A4 Prestige 6-Speed Manual Quattro [bandfan] by james27
Feb 07, 2009 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: bandfan (Feb 04, 2009 6:18 pm)

Many car dealers won't take a credit card for a new car purchase. The reason you can get 2% back from the cc company is that the seller pays a fee to them to use their services, and depending on the agreement, it can often be larger than the 2%, your bank doesn't do this for free, and the auto dealer doesn't want to pay the large fee. Service is one thing, but a car is another.
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Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [bandfan] by richardnva
Feb 09, 2009 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: bandfan (Feb 07, 2009 12:37 pm)

Have you looked at the Infiniti G37? I think they have a V6 with a manual transmission. I'm not positive, but I think I saw that as an option.
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Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [bandfan] by kinct
Feb 10, 2009 (7:57 am)
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Replying to: bandfan (Feb 07, 2009 12:37 pm)

I agree! In my latest round of car shopping, pre-requisite #1 is the transmission. Manual only please. While the "tiptronic/DSG" transmissions are excellent from a performance perspective (read: on paper), they are substantially more complex / exotic, and hence more likely to break and when they do - $$$$. I have never had a manual transmission or clutch go bad - and have had cars go 225k, 213k, 195k miles.
 
And don't get me started on pure automatics...
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'09 A4 2.0 quattro premium plus lease #'s ? by rbergmandc
Feb 10, 2009 (2:31 pm)
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Thoughts on this deal ?
 
this is the deal i just got off the phone with.. wonder if G can help me !!
 
A4 2.0quatrro premium plus
15,000 miles
36 months
MSRP= $38,000
INVOICE= $35734 (he told me he was giving it to me for $36,000)
told by the dealer the following : MF= .0009 Residual = 50%
   (saw on another board the MF = .00104 and residual of 49%
 
$575 per month ( i thought if i can get him to $550.. i'd jump)
 
drive off is 1st month, bank (625) and NYS reg (200)
 
Any helps would be much appreciated
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Re: '09 A4 2.0 quattro premium plus lease #'s ? [rbergmandc] by barryend
Feb 10, 2009 (6:15 pm)
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Replying to: rbergmandc (Feb 10, 2009 2:31 pm)

I just did a similar deal at 645.00 with sports package, Audi Care, and Nav. Your deal sounds very good. I did not squeeze since the salesman spent allot of time with me. You got more off MSRP than me. I suppose if you just call up or deal with an Internet salesman you get the best price. I took two test drives today and one last month. Ordered my perfect set up for April delivery. If you want a bargain go to Infiniti for a leftover 2008 G35 or Caddy for a CTS (sale only). Audi is pretty firm on their dollars.
 
My co-worker leased a 2008 G35X, no Nav for 385.00. They have so many 2008s they don't show the 2009 G37 sedans. (better tranny & motor) That's a great deal and you will never have a repair. Just hope gas stays low.
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Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [richardnva] by rjlaero
Feb 11, 2009 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: richardnva (Feb 06, 2009 6:33 am)

I think anyone who is underwhelmed with the 2.0T is in the minority
 
The new 09 2.0T is quite impressive to me. With nearly 260lb ft of torque, it's no doubt better than most V6's out there. BMW and MB's standard V6's can't match that. Even Audis own 3.2 with 265 hp has 243lb ft of torque. The 2.0T is probably one of the best motors on the market right now.
 
All of that torque is available under 2000 RPM, and you can really feel it around town.
 
I've got an A6 with a 350 hp V8 and love power like anybody else. Every time I get in a 2.0T and slam on the gas, it makes me smile. It's a heck of a lot of fun to drive and has plenty on punch to me.
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Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [rjlaero] by richardnva
Feb 12, 2009 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: rjlaero (Feb 11, 2009 11:49 am)

rjlaero,
I'm a big Audi fan and agree that on paper the specs on the 2.0 seem to match up against other engines, but from a drivability perspective it's hard to compare a small 2 liter to a larger V6. Maybe it would have performed better if I had stomped on it like you referenced. I did normal city and highway driving without really pushing it from a hard stop to see what the raw acceleration would be. For normal city driving it didn't do so well at low speeds (stop and go traffic). It's still a great engine, and arguably my expectations were too high. I miss my A6 and probably need to move up to the 6 to get what I want. I'd still be interested to hear from anyone who has driven both the 2.0 and the 3.2. Thanks.
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by paulee
Feb 12, 2009 (11:33 am)
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I'm confused about the TMV pricing on the Audi autobuilder.
 
The prestige package has a price of $6909 and the navigation has an optional price of $2,326. It is my understanding that the prestige package INCLUDES the navigation system. Is this correct?
 
I was quoted $41,942 for an A4 2.0T quattro (auto) with the prestige package.
Does this seem high or in line with TMV?
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Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [richardnva] by markcincinnati
Feb 14, 2009 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: richardnva (Feb 06, 2009 6:33 am)

From PBS's MotorWeek to Car and Driver to AutoWeek and on and on and on, including Ward's Best Engine of the year (one of the 10 for '09), the current, B8 Audi 2.0T receives praise for:
 
Smoothness
"undetectable" lag
Nearly weapons grade torque
Economy
Emissions
 
It also is reviewed as being the quicker of the two US versions of the A4 quattro, in some tests by OVER 1/2 second. The 3.2 is a great engine, but its main characteristic is it sounds good under part throttle. Both sound good at full cry, but the edge on "sweetness" goes to the 3.2.
 
If you found the 2.0T underpowered, you will not be pleased with the 3.2 between rest and 80+ MPH.
 
I have a theory, based on your post: you drove a front wheel drive version with the CVT transmission, which imparts an entirely different feel. Further, the AWD version uses a very very quick shifting tiptronic and rear wheel drive biased AWD (40/60 f/r torque split.)
 
I tested four recent Audis: S5, A5 3.2, A4 3.2 and A4 2.0T. They are all desirable, based, IMHO, on trim level (I have the Prestige, 19" sport package, Nav+voice+camera, ADS, rear and side sunshades -- everything but ACC and rear airbags, that is). The 2.0T A4 is push you back in the seat quick, somewhat like the awesome S5 (somewhat, I'm not saying alike or even "close").
 
The reason: 258 pound feet of torque available sub 1,900 rpm. The V6 on the other hand, 243 pound feet of torque that comes on north of 3,100. The 2.0T weighs less and the engine at idle whilst you sit at that lonnnnng traffic light makes you wonder "is this thing still running" it is so silent and vibration free.
 
0-100KPH for the 3.2 = 6.7 seconds; 6.2 seconds for the 2.0T -- and a mile or two or three better MPG if that is of interest. Corners better, too, since the 3.2 is a smidge more nose heavy and slower to respond due to the wait to get to the higher RPM's where its max torque comes on.
 
Try a 2.0T Prestige, 19" Sport package (or SLine) equipped '09 A4 quattro. You shouldn't have any issues with THAT configuration.
 
Finally: the A4 itself is the quietest Audi I have ever had: of 29, including an A8, S6, allroad and most recently a 2005 A6 3.2.
 
While I may wish for a bit more torque and perhaps plus 15% more HP, I am here to testify -- the new 2.0T may be Audis best "small engine" yet.
 
It is easily better than my 2.7T and even better than my 1995 S6 20 valve turbo 5 cylinder, which DID have that sweet sound down pat.
 
The 4.2, however, at this point, is the sweetest of all, especially at full cry.
 
Can't wait to test the 3.0T (supercharged S4).
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Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [markcincinnati] by richardnva
Feb 15, 2009 (7:57 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Feb 14, 2009 1:16 pm)

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I do look forward to trying out the 3.2 quattro for comparison to the 2.0. Ironic that you quote the Motorweek review, I just watched their review of the A4 and it was very complementary, and I agree that it is a very nice car. As far as part of your theory about the CVT, I'm sorry to disappoint you that I don't think that was the basis for my comments. My A6 was a CVT as well, and I actually really enjoyed the driving sensation of the smooth pull that the CVT delivered. I'm actually a little surprised that you can still get the CVT anymore, I was beginning to think that Audi was going towards quattro only and getting rid of the 2-wheel drive CVTs. Hopefully I'll have some time in the next week or so to try out the 3.2 for comparison. I'll let you know. Thanks!

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