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#217 of 337 Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [rascal99] by richardnva Feb 06, 2009 (3:29 pm)
Replying to: rascal99 (Feb 06, 2009 10:54 am) Rascal, Thanks for the reply. Yes, I realize I'm comparing apples to oranges with 4 cylinder vs. 6 cylinder, but I was really surprised at just how weak the 2.0 liter was. After all, it is an Audi Seriously, I realized during the test drive that I'd have to drive to the 3.2. I was hoping (dreaming) that I could get a solid Audi for under $40k... I've moved past that daydream and am back to reality. I'm looking forward to driving the 3.2, but honestly am not a fan of the quattros. I don't need an all wheel drive car (I get about an inch of snow a year and a couple inches of rain) and you mentioned trade offs, Audi's are heavy to begin with, add the extra weight of the quattro and they're almost always the heaviest car in the lot. Anyway, enough of my rant. Any other feedback on driving experiences from the 3.2? I'm looking at the Lexus ES and possibly the Benz C-class. Thanks for the feedback. Replies to this message: bandfan (Feb 07, 2009 12:37 pm) richardnva (Feb 09, 2009 12:13 pm) kinct (Feb 10, 2009 7:57 am)
#218 of 337 Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [richardnva] by bandfan Feb 07, 2009 (12:37 pm)
Replying to: richardnva (Feb 06, 2009 3:29 pm) I also found the 2.0T quite unimpressive in the automatic. Which is one of the main reasons I'm holding out for the 6-speeds. In my experience, the same engine in a stick is way more "powerful" because you have so much more control with the clutch and when to shift, etc.   That being said, even with more power, I could never be satisfied driving a 3.2L in an automatic. It really sucks that manual transmission is becoming a thing of the past, unless its a tiny little coupe or super expensive sports car. From what I've seen, Acura, Audi, Lexus, etc. don't make their V6 in anything except automatic transmission...boring!. Sports sedans are meant to be driven, not automated, IMO. Replies to this message: richardnva (Feb 09, 2009 12:13 pm) kinct (Feb 10, 2009 7:57 am)
#219 of 337 Re: 09' A4 Prestige 6-Speed Manual Quattro [bandfan] by james27 Feb 07, 2009 (7:22 pm)
Replying to: bandfan (Feb 04, 2009 6:18 pm) Many car dealers won't take a credit card for a new car purchase. The reason you can get 2% back from the cc company is that the seller pays a fee to them to use their services, and depending on the agreement, it can often be larger than the 2%, your bank doesn't do this for free, and the auto dealer doesn't want to pay the large fee. Service is one thing, but a car is another.
#220 of 337 Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [bandfan] by richardnva Feb 09, 2009 (12:13 pm)
Replying to: bandfan (Feb 07, 2009 12:37 pm) Have you looked at the Infiniti G37? I think they have a V6 with a manual transmission. I'm not positive, but I think I saw that as an option.
#221 of 337 Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [bandfan] by kinct Feb 10, 2009 (7:57 am)
Replying to: bandfan (Feb 07, 2009 12:37 pm) I agree! In my latest round of car shopping, pre-requisite #1 is the transmission. Manual only please. While the "tiptronic/DSG" transmissions are excellent from a performance perspective (read: on paper), they are substantially more complex / exotic, and hence more likely to break and when they do - $$$$. I have never had a manual transmission or clutch go bad - and have had cars go 225k, 213k, 195k miles.   And don't get me started on pure automatics...
#222 of 337 '09 A4 2.0 quattro premium plus lease #'s ? by rbergmandc Feb 10, 2009 (2:31 pm)
Thoughts on this deal ?   this is the deal i just got off the phone with.. wonder if G can help me !!   A4 2.0quatrro premium plus 15,000 miles 36 months MSRP= $38,000 INVOICE= $35734 (he told me he was giving it to me for $36,000) told by the dealer the following : MF= .0009 Residual = 50%    (saw on another board the MF = .00104 and residual of 49%   $575 per month ( i thought if i can get him to $550.. i'd jump)   drive off is 1st month, bank (625) and NYS reg (200)   Any helps would be much appreciated Replies to this message: barryend (Feb 10, 2009 6:15 pm)
#223 of 337 Re: '09 A4 2.0 quattro premium plus lease #'s ? [rbergmandc] by barryend Feb 10, 2009 (6:15 pm)
Replying to: rbergmandc (Feb 10, 2009 2:31 pm) I just did a similar deal at 645.00 with sports package, Audi Care, and Nav. Your deal sounds very good. I did not squeeze since the salesman spent allot of time with me. You got more off MSRP than me. I suppose if you just call up or deal with an Internet salesman you get the best price. I took two test drives today and one last month. Ordered my perfect set up for April delivery. If you want a bargain go to Infiniti for a leftover 2008 G35 or Caddy for a CTS (sale only). Audi is pretty firm on their dollars.   My co-worker leased a 2008 G35X, no Nav for 385.00. They have so many 2008s they don't show the 2009 G37 sedans. (better tranny & motor) That's a great deal and you will never have a repair. Just hope gas stays low.
#224 of 337 Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [richardnva] by rjlaero Feb 11, 2009 (11:49 am)
Replying to: richardnva (Feb 06, 2009 6:33 am) I think anyone who is underwhelmed with the 2.0T is in the minority   The new 09 2.0T is quite impressive to me. With nearly 260lb ft of torque, it's no doubt better than most V6's out there. BMW and MB's standard V6's can't match that. Even Audis own 3.2 with 265 hp has 243lb ft of torque. The 2.0T is probably one of the best motors on the market right now.   All of that torque is available under 2000 RPM, and you can really feel it around town.   I've got an A6 with a 350 hp V8 and love power like anybody else. Every time I get in a 2.0T and slam on the gas, it makes me smile. It's a heck of a lot of fun to drive and has plenty on punch to me. Replies to this message: richardnva (Feb 12, 2009 9:21 am)
#225 of 337 Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [rjlaero] by richardnva Feb 12, 2009 (9:21 am)
Replying to: rjlaero (Feb 11, 2009 11:49 am) rjlaero, I'm a big Audi fan and agree that on paper the specs on the 2.0 seem to match up against other engines, but from a drivability perspective it's hard to compare a small 2 liter to a larger V6. Maybe it would have performed better if I had stomped on it like you referenced. I did normal city and highway driving without really pushing it from a hard stop to see what the raw acceleration would be. For normal city driving it didn't do so well at low speeds (stop and go traffic). It's still a great engine, and arguably my expectations were too high. I miss my A6 and probably need to move up to the 6 to get what I want. I'd still be interested to hear from anyone who has driven both the 2.0 and the 3.2. Thanks.
#226 of 337 by paulee Feb 12, 2009 (11:33 am)
I'm confused about the TMV pricing on the Audi autobuilder.   The prestige package has a price of $6909 and the navigation has an optional price of $2,326. It is my understanding that the prestige package INCLUDES the navigation system. Is this correct?   I was quoted $41,942 for an A4 2.0T quattro (auto) with the prestige package. Does this seem high or in line with TMV? Replies to this message: saritasesh1 (Mar 13, 2009 4:16 pm) carnaught (Mar 14, 2009 7:07 am)

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