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Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [richardnva]
by rascal99
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Feb 06, 2009 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: richardnva (Feb 06, 2009 6:33 am)
The 2.0t may be turbocharged but it is still a small displacement 4 cylinder engine. You are compairing this to cars with V6 engines. There is going to be a difference in power delivery and feel. Of course, the 2.0 will provide for a lighter, more responsive car, with better gas mileage. Cars are all about trade offs, so it depends on where your priorities lie. And yes, the 2.0t has always been a bit noisy, with a sound sort of like a diesel. I was hoping they cured the noise issue with the new model but it appears they have not.
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- #216 of 337
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A4 Premium Plus with Sport Package
by mpzmba
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Feb 06, 2009 (12:40 pm)
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I am in CT and considering the following -- A4 Quatro with Premium Plus and 18" Sport. What is reasonable? Dealer quoted $1500 discount to which they add back $499 Doc Fee. Any assistance would be appreciated.
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- #217 of 337
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Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [rascal99]
by richardnva
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Feb 06, 2009 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: rascal99 (Feb 06, 2009 10:54 am)
Rascal, Thanks for the reply. Yes, I realize I'm comparing apples to oranges with 4 cylinder vs. 6 cylinder, but I was really surprised at just how weak the 2.0 liter was. After all, it is an Audi Seriously, I realized during the test drive that I'd have to drive to the 3.2. I was hoping (dreaming) that I could get a solid Audi for under $40k... I've moved past that daydream and am back to reality. I'm looking forward to driving the 3.2, but honestly am not a fan of the quattros. I don't need an all wheel drive car (I get about an inch of snow a year and a couple inches of rain) and you mentioned trade offs, Audi's are heavy to begin with, add the extra weight of the quattro and they're almost always the heaviest car in the lot. Anyway, enough of my rant. Any other feedback on driving experiences from the 3.2? I'm looking at the Lexus ES and possibly the Benz C-class. Thanks for the feedback.
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Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [richardnva]
by bandfan
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Feb 07, 2009 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: richardnva (Feb 06, 2009 3:29 pm)
I also found the 2.0T quite unimpressive in the automatic. Which is one of the main reasons I'm holding out for the 6-speeds. In my experience, the same engine in a stick is way more "powerful" because you have so much more control with the clutch and when to shift, etc.
That being said, even with more power, I could never be satisfied driving a 3.2L in an automatic. It really sucks that manual transmission is becoming a thing of the past, unless its a tiny little coupe or super expensive sports car. From what I've seen, Acura, Audi, Lexus, etc. don't make their V6 in anything except automatic transmission...boring!. Sports sedans are meant to be driven, not automated, IMO.
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Re: 09' A4 Prestige 6-Speed Manual Quattro [bandfan]
by james27
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Feb 07, 2009 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: bandfan (Feb 04, 2009 6:18 pm)
Many car dealers won't take a credit card for a new car purchase. The reason you can get 2% back from the cc company is that the seller pays a fee to them to use their services, and depending on the agreement, it can often be larger than the 2%, your bank doesn't do this for free, and the auto dealer doesn't want to pay the large fee. Service is one thing, but a car is another.
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- #220 of 337
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Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [bandfan]
by richardnva
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Feb 09, 2009 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: bandfan (Feb 07, 2009 12:37 pm)
Have you looked at the Infiniti G37? I think they have a V6 with a manual transmission. I'm not positive, but I think I saw that as an option.
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- #221 of 337
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Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [bandfan]
by kinct
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Feb 10, 2009 (7:57 am)
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Replying to: bandfan (Feb 07, 2009 12:37 pm)
I agree! In my latest round of car shopping, pre-requisite #1 is the transmission. Manual only please. While the "tiptronic/DSG" transmissions are excellent from a performance perspective (read: on paper), they are substantially more complex / exotic, and hence more likely to break and when they do - $$$$. I have never had a manual transmission or clutch go bad - and have had cars go 225k, 213k, 195k miles.
And don't get me started on pure automatics...
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- #222 of 337
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'09 A4 2.0 quattro premium plus lease #'s ?
by rbergmandc
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Feb 10, 2009 (2:31 pm)
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Thoughts on this deal ?
this is the deal i just got off the phone with.. wonder if G can help me !!
A4 2.0quatrro premium plus
15,000 miles
36 months
MSRP= $38,000
INVOICE= $35734 (he told me he was giving it to me for $36,000)
told by the dealer the following : MF= .0009 Residual = 50%
(saw on another board the MF = .00104 and residual of 49%
$575 per month ( i thought if i can get him to $550.. i'd jump)
drive off is 1st month, bank (625) and NYS reg (200)
Any helps would be much appreciated
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- #223 of 337
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Re: '09 A4 2.0 quattro premium plus lease #'s ? [rbergmandc]
by barryend
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Feb 10, 2009 (6:15 pm)
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Replying to: rbergmandc (Feb 10, 2009 2:31 pm)
I just did a similar deal at 645.00 with sports package, Audi Care, and Nav. Your deal sounds very good. I did not squeeze since the salesman spent allot of time with me. You got more off MSRP than me. I suppose if you just call up or deal with an Internet salesman you get the best price. I took two test drives today and one last month. Ordered my perfect set up for April delivery. If you want a bargain go to Infiniti for a leftover 2008 G35 or Caddy for a CTS (sale only). Audi is pretty firm on their dollars.
My co-worker leased a 2008 G35X, no Nav for 385.00. They have so many 2008s they don't show the 2009 G37 sedans. (better tranny & motor) That's a great deal and you will never have a repair. Just hope gas stays low.
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- #224 of 337
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Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [richardnva]
by rjlaero
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Feb 11, 2009 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: richardnva (Feb 06, 2009 6:33 am)
I think anyone who is underwhelmed with the 2.0T is in the minority
The new 09 2.0T is quite impressive to me. With nearly 260lb ft of torque, it's no doubt better than most V6's out there. BMW and MB's standard V6's can't match that. Even Audis own 3.2 with 265 hp has 243lb ft of torque. The 2.0T is probably one of the best motors on the market right now.
All of that torque is available under 2000 RPM, and you can really feel it around town.
I've got an A6 with a 350 hp V8 and love power like anybody else. Every time I get in a 2.0T and slam on the gas, it makes me smile. It's a heck of a lot of fun to drive and has plenty on punch to me.
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