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Re: 09' A4 Prestige 6-Speed Manual Quattro [bandfan]
by markcincinnati
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Feb 04, 2009 (6:04 pm)
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Replying to: bandfan (Jan 31, 2009 10:54 am)
The dealer gets cash, yours, the banks, AFS or where ever.
The fact that you may come in with a suitcase full of cash vs some other method is probably a big yawn.
In fact, if you pay cash, the dealer may be shorted up to 1/4% of his revenue -- meaning you may actually pay MORE out of your pocket.
Paying for a car, fully in cash, also may net you a higher price (even though it is technically not supposed to.)
Why not win all the way around?
Finance the car, let the dealer get his spiff, make one payment, then pay the whole note off.
Unless of course there is a prepayment penalty -- hard to imagine, but NOT impossible.
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Re: 09' A4 Prestige 6-Speed Manual Quattro [markcincinnati]
by bandfan
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Feb 04, 2009 (6:18 pm)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Feb 04, 2009 6:04 pm)
Thanks for the advice...didn't think of that. I could always finance with my credit union where I have my mortgage, pay for the car w/ a cashier's check. The whole goal of using my credit card though, is that I get 2% back, saving me around $750-800. I don't think I would get the 2% back if did a credit card balance transfer (to pay off the auto loan). I believe its for direct purchases only.
Bummer....only reason I applied for a $40k credit limit.
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2.0T Turbo lag blues?
by richardnva
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Feb 06, 2009 (6:33 am)
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I just took my first test drive of the new 09 A4 and I have to admit I was very "underwhelmed". I loved the styling and the extra room in the new model is great. I test drove the front wheel drive 2.0 turbo and felt that the car was really underpowered and the engine a little noisy. I did not have time to drive either the 2.0 quattro or the 3.2. Has anyone driven both the front drive and the quattros that can give me some feedback for comparison? I've never owned a turbo so I'm not used to the hesitation at low rpms. I had a 02 A6 and now drive a Acura TL and love the acceleration of both of those cars. I thought I'd start with the base engine on the A4 and work my way up. Am I being too hard on the 2.0L engine?
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Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [richardnva]
by rascal99
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Feb 06, 2009 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: richardnva (Feb 06, 2009 6:33 am)
The 2.0t may be turbocharged but it is still a small displacement 4 cylinder engine. You are compairing this to cars with V6 engines. There is going to be a difference in power delivery and feel. Of course, the 2.0 will provide for a lighter, more responsive car, with better gas mileage. Cars are all about trade offs, so it depends on where your priorities lie. And yes, the 2.0t has always been a bit noisy, with a sound sort of like a diesel. I was hoping they cured the noise issue with the new model but it appears they have not.
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A4 Premium Plus with Sport Package
by mpzmba
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Feb 06, 2009 (12:40 pm)
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I am in CT and considering the following -- A4 Quatro with Premium Plus and 18" Sport. What is reasonable? Dealer quoted $1500 discount to which they add back $499 Doc Fee. Any assistance would be appreciated.
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Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [rascal99]
by richardnva
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Feb 06, 2009 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: rascal99 (Feb 06, 2009 10:54 am)
Rascal, Thanks for the reply. Yes, I realize I'm comparing apples to oranges with 4 cylinder vs. 6 cylinder, but I was really surprised at just how weak the 2.0 liter was. After all, it is an Audi Seriously, I realized during the test drive that I'd have to drive to the 3.2. I was hoping (dreaming) that I could get a solid Audi for under $40k... I've moved past that daydream and am back to reality. I'm looking forward to driving the 3.2, but honestly am not a fan of the quattros. I don't need an all wheel drive car (I get about an inch of snow a year and a couple inches of rain) and you mentioned trade offs, Audi's are heavy to begin with, add the extra weight of the quattro and they're almost always the heaviest car in the lot. Anyway, enough of my rant. Any other feedback on driving experiences from the 3.2? I'm looking at the Lexus ES and possibly the Benz C-class. Thanks for the feedback.
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Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [richardnva]
by bandfan
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Feb 07, 2009 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: richardnva (Feb 06, 2009 3:29 pm)
I also found the 2.0T quite unimpressive in the automatic. Which is one of the main reasons I'm holding out for the 6-speeds. In my experience, the same engine in a stick is way more "powerful" because you have so much more control with the clutch and when to shift, etc.
That being said, even with more power, I could never be satisfied driving a 3.2L in an automatic. It really sucks that manual transmission is becoming a thing of the past, unless its a tiny little coupe or super expensive sports car. From what I've seen, Acura, Audi, Lexus, etc. don't make their V6 in anything except automatic transmission...boring!. Sports sedans are meant to be driven, not automated, IMO.
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Re: 09' A4 Prestige 6-Speed Manual Quattro [bandfan]
by james27
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Feb 07, 2009 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: bandfan (Feb 04, 2009 6:18 pm)
Many car dealers won't take a credit card for a new car purchase. The reason you can get 2% back from the cc company is that the seller pays a fee to them to use their services, and depending on the agreement, it can often be larger than the 2%, your bank doesn't do this for free, and the auto dealer doesn't want to pay the large fee. Service is one thing, but a car is another.
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Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [bandfan]
by richardnva
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Feb 09, 2009 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: bandfan (Feb 07, 2009 12:37 pm)
Have you looked at the Infiniti G37? I think they have a V6 with a manual transmission. I'm not positive, but I think I saw that as an option.
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Re: 2.0T Turbo lag blues? [bandfan]
by kinct
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Feb 10, 2009 (7:57 am)
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Replying to: bandfan (Feb 07, 2009 12:37 pm)
I agree! In my latest round of car shopping, pre-requisite #1 is the transmission. Manual only please. While the "tiptronic/DSG" transmissions are excellent from a performance perspective (read: on paper), they are substantially more complex / exotic, and hence more likely to break and when they do - $$$$. I have never had a manual transmission or clutch go bad - and have had cars go 225k, 213k, 195k miles.
And don't get me started on pure automatics...
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