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#118 of 357 Leased my 2009 A4 a week ago; changes from 07
Sep 14, 2008 (5:32 pm)
Last Monday, I turned in my 2007 A4 2.0T Quattro Auto for a 2009 A4 2.0T Quattro Auto in the Premium Plus version. I was amazingly able to take advantage of Audi's lease pull-ahead program -- I was coming up on my next 3 payments and was able to avoid those, plus got $2,500 towards the new A4 -- plus I was able to negotiate in a nice discount off MSRP and get Audi Care included in my new lease.
I had one of the great 2 yr/30K leases -- and was able to get into the new A4 for less than $12 per month more, taking a 3 yr/36K lease withe the scheduled maintenance included. It was really a no-brainer for me.
For those of you out there with a 2007 wondering about the new A4 with 2.0 engine, everything written is true. This new version is a monster -- WAY more off-the-line pull because of the increased torque. The 6A is also better sorted out, shifts smoother and no hiccups as to what gear it is in or should be in. Ride is far nicer, still very sporty and controlled but because of the longer wheelbase, much much nicer and way more room inside for 4 plus more room in the trunk (which was big before but is even bigger now).
My 07 had the power folding mirrors (not available on any of the 2009 US A4 models AFAIK), which I really liked; I also had the winter package on the 07, which included the headlight washers -- again, apparently not available on any version of US 2009 A4's. Still have the heated front seats -- but rear seats still not avail heated.
There were a lot more "cubbies" to put stuff -- underneath each front seat on the 07 there was a drop down bin; not on the 09. The holder for the manuals that used to be under the steering column on the 07 is gone in the 09 -- forced to use the glove box for this, which is smaller than the 07 version anyway. Putting the manuals in there makes it smaller still.
There were also a few storage areas in the console/dash on the 07 that are now gone on the 09. Also gone are the front side marker lights -- but in their place is the very cool LED equipped mirrors. It appears that the turn signals on the front are LED's too, but unfortunately the rear lights are regular bulbs. The interior lighting is all regular bulb except for the foot well areas, which are all lit by LED's. Too bad they didn't use LED's for the entire interior.
Bonuses on the 2009 prem plus version, though -- things that are really nice to have:
3 zone HVAC
Sirius satellite radio -- I don't know how long we get this for free (3 months?)
Bluetooth -- this feature really works great
iPod Interface -- a REAL iPod interface that allows you to cable direct to your player and control from the MMI screen -- VERY cool
MMI -- actually works very well with a very easy-to-read screen
Hope this helps some of you out there that might be considering what to do when you turn in your B7 version of the A4. If you have questions, I'll try to check in and answer them.
1st tank of gas returned over 24mpg -- in spite of all the idling done with the new car. I am expecting great gas mileage from this 09 and don't think I'll be disappointed in that regard at all.
#119 of 357 Re: Leased my 2009 A4 a week ago; changes from 07 [desgnconcpts]
Sep 14, 2008 (7:57 pm)
My A4 lease will be expired soon and would like to go for a 2009 A4 lease for another three-year. I appreciate if you could share some details about your lease terms. I am looking for the 2.0 premium plus package as well. Thanks.
#120 of 357 Re: Leased my 2009 A4 a week ago; changes from 07 [desgnconcpts]
Sep 15, 2008 (5:12 am)
Don't know if your dealer made a mistake and ate the cost, but there was no pull-ahead program that could be applied to 09 A4's.
The 2500 and final 3 payments was for 08 A4's and not the 09's.
#121 of 357 Re: Leased my 2009 A4 a week ago; changes from 07 [rjlaero]
Sep 15, 2008 (6:21 am)
I can GUARANTEE you that the dealer did NOT eat the cost, nor did they make a mistake. I have the offer letter I was sent:
"Now through September 2, 2008 (as they told me, that was extended through September 8 -- not in another letter, but evidently in internal Audi communication to the dealer), Audi of America will pay for 3 of your remaining lease payments on your current Audi Financial Services lease when you finance or lease most new or Certified pre-owned Audi models through Audi Financial Services*."
That asterisk refers to this statement on the back of the letter:
"* Must be available in dealer stock. The following new or Certified pre-owned models are NOT eligible for this offer: the Audi A5, S5 & R8."
NOWHERE does it say that the 2009 is NOT available -- however, the clincher here is that the "vehicle must be available in dealer stock."
That was the catch for my car -- given that Audi extended the offer by almost a week, my car came in on Saturday, 9/6 and was then part of inventory. Closed my deal on Monday, 9/8.
The offer did NOT exclude the 2009 A4, but the hook was that the car HAD to be in the dealer's inventory, that's why almost no one was able to take advantage of this offer.
Also -- one other nice thing, because this was "unplanned" I wasn't able to get my car inspected beforehand, but the dealer bought my car from Audi after I worked my deal and as a result, no worries about any up-charges or extra charges because of any scratches or scuffs.
#122 of 357 Re: Leased my 2009 A4 a week ago; changes from 07 [peichen]
Sep 15, 2008 (6:31 am)
Premium Plus residual for 3 yrs/36K is 57%
Add 1% to residual when you get Audi Care -- so my resid was 58% of the MSRP of 38,000, or 22,040.
Audi Care was added to lease cost cap #'s at the MSRP value of $650, so clearly they made some money on that. But I was told they had not discounted any 09's by more than a few hundred bucks -- I was able to do much better, plus got the $2,500 from Audi's pull-ahead program that went into the lease just as if I had put that money down, buying down the cost of the lease. Approx every $1,000 equates to about $30 in lease cost. So when you go up $1,000 in options, you've added about $30 to your monthly lease cost (and vice versa).
I don't think there are any other details that would help -- there is a $195 port prep fee and Audi marketing fee of about $200 added to the invoice cost.
#123 of 357 Re: 2009 A4 at Invoice [kikihow]
Sep 15, 2008 (4:02 pm)
I live in palo alto and i got the quote from the audi dealer in palo alto. I actually got a little better quote (under invoce) from audi steven creek and i accepted that offer.
#124 of 357 Re: 2009 A4 at Invoice [corystory]
Sep 19, 2008 (12:56 pm)
I also live in SJ and just talked to the sales guy at stevens creek about the cost a new 09. I am also turning in my 2 year lease car in the next 2 months...
Let me know which model you got and options and price PLEASE, he ran the number for a Prem + and the High end one and with 2500 to 4k down we were still talking about payments of 544 prem + nav so on or the high end model with nav so on for 640.00 a month ea for 3 years.... OUCH
#125 of 357 Re: 2009 A4 at Invoice [corystory]
Sep 19, 2008 (1:36 pm)
Wow! Well, since I haven't bought mine yet I could still technically negotiate. Can I ask what options you got (Premium Plus?, Prestige?, Navigation?, etc), how much the offer was (or how much below invoice) and who you spoke with at Audi Steven's Creek? I wouldn't mind getting another thousand or so off my car!
#126 of 357 Re: 2009 A4 at Invoice [kikihow]
Sep 19, 2008 (1:49 pm)
I ordered A4 2.0T + Premium Plus + Rear Side Airbags + Wood Trim. The saleman was very nice and he even waived the $500 deposit. Hopefully he does not change his mind and cancel my order LOL. I have not negotiated my payment plan yet, will probably do 10K down payment + 48 months.
#127 of 357 Re: 2009 A4 at Invoice [corystory]
Sep 19, 2008 (1:56 pm)
Thanks for that fast response You said you negotiated under invoice... how much under invoice? Do you remember the name of your salesman? My deposit was $1000 If Steven's Creek is giving such a good deal perhaps I could negotiate a better price with my dealership. It'd be great if you remembered your salesman's name! Thank you so much for the info!