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Re: Test drove new 2009 A4 [bigpapaluke] by drgums
Sep 07, 2008 (4:58 pm)
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Replying to: bigpapaluke (Sep 01, 2008 12:42 pm)

I am considering ordering the A4 manual 2009. I test drove the automatic version.
 
I only drive manuals and was wondering what you thought of the car with the manual...and why "you didn't get a sense of how it operates"? I am in the NJ metro area.
 
I am also considering the BMW 5 series. Any observations you could give me regarding the power and feeling of the manual? Do you think it has enough HP and power? I have to find one to test drive since it seems I would have to wait for the car in the late fall/ Jan 2009 to get one.
 
Any observations would be helpful?
 
Thank you
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Re: 2009 A4 3.2 L manual [drgums] by rjlaero
Sep 08, 2008 (5:31 am)
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Replying to: drgums (Sep 07, 2008 4:47 pm)

The A4 is competing with the 3 series and the C class, so it's really not a "fair fight" so to speak.
 
The big plus of the new 09 A4 is that it's the largest car in it's class. The wheelbase is stretched 6 inches and it's a far more comfortable car than last year.
 
You're not going to get 300 hp, but based on the new 09 2.0T's I drove, the new 2.0 is the best motor in it's class, and it outshines both BMW and MB's base V6 motors. it feels really quick of the line, and with almost 260 lb ft of torque, there's plenty of power for most people.
 
Audi has always made a great 6 speed gearbox, and I have no doubt with the new engine upgrades, the 6 speed will be lots 'o fun to drive.
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Re: 2009 A4 3.2 L manual [rjlaero] by drgums
Sep 08, 2008 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: rjlaero (Sep 08, 2008 5:31 am)

Thanks...I appreciate your insight.
 
one other thing....since you feel the Audi A4 2.0 "outshines the BMW base V6 motors"....would you also include the 528xi which has the V6 base motor ( 230 HP) as well? only the 535 has the 300hp engine.
 
Thanks
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Re: 2009 A4 3.2 L manual [drgums] by darkguy
Sep 08, 2008 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: drgums (Sep 08, 2008 5:45 am)

and when did BMW ever have a V-6 engine?
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Re: 2009 A4 3.2 L manual [darkguy] by drgums
Sep 08, 2008 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: darkguy (Sep 08, 2008 8:48 am)

sorry...in line 6
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Re: 2009 A4 3.2 L manual [drgums] by rjlaero
Sep 08, 2008 (4:19 pm)
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Replying to: drgums (Sep 08, 2008 5:45 am)

After driving the 3.2 and 2.0T back to back, I personally wouldn't spend the money for the 6 cyl on the 09 model. The 6 is slighty sweeter and has a little better exhaust note. But the 09 2.0T engine is almost "too good" as the A4's base motor.
 
As a comparo for a base 6 cyl 5 series with a manual, I think the A4 2.0T with the 6 speed is definately worth a drive. You can deck out a 2.0 A4 with a lot of options for a lot less money.
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Re: 2009 A4 at Invoice [corystory] by hammer760
Sep 12, 2008 (1:47 pm)
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Replying to: corystory (Sep 07, 2008 4:23 pm)

I just opened conversations with my local dealer here in the San Diego area and they said they were sticking close to MSRP right now...I think I can wait.
Where are you located? I'd love to talk business with an Audi dealer who would give me invoice.
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Re: 2009 A4 at Invoice [hammer760] by kikihow
Sep 12, 2008 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: hammer760 (Sep 12, 2008 1:47 pm)

I live in Livermore (which is the San Francisco Bay Area). Your dealership is being ridiculous. I've been to 2 dealerships here, one offered me $1000 off invoice (Concord Audi) and the other $1600 (Livermore Audi). The difference between invoice and MSRP for the car package I'm getting is $2600 (the A4 2.0T with Prestige and Navigation) AND the car is being special ordered.
 
I think you should try going to another dealership in your area. I believe I could've gotten my car as low as $500 over invoice (the dealership very quickly agreed to $1000 over invoice).
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Re: 2009 A4 at Invoice [corystory] by kikihow
Sep 12, 2008 (2:19 pm)
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Replying to: corystory (Sep 07, 2008 4:23 pm)

Wow, that's a great deal, INVOICE? I'm jealous. I got mine for $1000 over invoice (and did I mention I brought the salesmen a plate of BBQ and fried catfish?)
#118 of 337
Leased my 2009 A4 a week ago; changes from 07 by desgnconcpts
Sep 14, 2008 (5:32 pm)
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Last Monday, I turned in my 2007 A4 2.0T Quattro Auto for a 2009 A4 2.0T Quattro Auto in the Premium Plus version. I was amazingly able to take advantage of Audi's lease pull-ahead program -- I was coming up on my next 3 payments and was able to avoid those, plus got $2,500 towards the new A4 -- plus I was able to negotiate in a nice discount off MSRP and get Audi Care included in my new lease.
 
I had one of the great 2 yr/30K leases -- and was able to get into the new A4 for less than $12 per month more, taking a 3 yr/36K lease withe the scheduled maintenance included. It was really a no-brainer for me.
 
For those of you out there with a 2007 wondering about the new A4 with 2.0 engine, everything written is true. This new version is a monster -- WAY more off-the-line pull because of the increased torque. The 6A is also better sorted out, shifts smoother and no hiccups as to what gear it is in or should be in. Ride is far nicer, still very sporty and controlled but because of the longer wheelbase, much much nicer and way more room inside for 4 plus more room in the trunk (which was big before but is even bigger now).
 
My 07 had the power folding mirrors (not available on any of the 2009 US A4 models AFAIK), which I really liked; I also had the winter package on the 07, which included the headlight washers -- again, apparently not available on any version of US 2009 A4's. Still have the heated front seats -- but rear seats still not avail heated.
 
There were a lot more "cubbies" to put stuff -- underneath each front seat on the 07 there was a drop down bin; not on the 09. The holder for the manuals that used to be under the steering column on the 07 is gone in the 09 -- forced to use the glove box for this, which is smaller than the 07 version anyway. Putting the manuals in there makes it smaller still.
 
There were also a few storage areas in the console/dash on the 07 that are now gone on the 09. Also gone are the front side marker lights -- but in their place is the very cool LED equipped mirrors. It appears that the turn signals on the front are LED's too, but unfortunately the rear lights are regular bulbs. The interior lighting is all regular bulb except for the foot well areas, which are all lit by LED's. Too bad they didn't use LED's for the entire interior.
 
Bonuses on the 2009 prem plus version, though -- things that are really nice to have:
Memory seat/mirrors
3 zone HVAC
Sirius satellite radio -- I don't know how long we get this for free (3 months?)
Bluetooth -- this feature really works great
iPod Interface -- a REAL iPod interface that allows you to cable direct to your player and control from the MMI screen -- VERY cool
MMI -- actually works very well with a very easy-to-read screen
 
Hope this helps some of you out there that might be considering what to do when you turn in your B7 version of the A4. If you have questions, I'll try to check in and answer them.
 
1st tank of gas returned over 24mpg -- in spite of all the idling done with the new car. I am expecting great gas mileage from this 09 and don't think I'll be disappointed in that regard at all.

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