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Re: $3k off...wow! [investor27] by shipo
Apr 15, 2009 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: investor27 (Apr 15, 2009 10:23 am)

As far as I know, the 335d isn't available anywhere in the world with a manual transmission. Yes, no?
 
Best regards,
Shipo
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Re: $3k off...wow! [shipo] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 15, 2009 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Apr 15, 2009 10:31 am)

Actually that's okay. I always felt the best combination for a diesel car was a turbo automatic.
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Re: $3k off...wow! [investor27] by ruking1
Apr 15, 2009 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: investor27 (Apr 15, 2009 10:23 am)

1st gear yes. Well, obviously he misspoke, So I just connected the dots.
 
It would appear that BMW in effect "cheaped out". The torque (300 - 405
# ft ) between the 335 I and the 335D is app 105 # ft MORE, add to that an additional safety factor, and you are probably talking a radical redesign, aka higher cost. Not even the 550I - 5 series V-8 has 405# ft (360 # ft only- only is way oxymoronic in this application)
 
So for as many as they anticipated selling, a 6 speed manual option probably makes no economic sense.
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Re: $3k off...wow! [ruking1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 15, 2009 (11:02 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Apr 15, 2009 10:45 am)

It makes no sense to market this car as a manual transmission in the USA anyway IMO. I think BMW made the right move here.
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Re: $3k off...wow! [Mr_Shiftright] by nopcbs
Apr 15, 2009 (4:48 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 15, 2009 11:02 am)

You're right, of course. The overwhelming majority of BMW's sold in the US are automatics. BMW was even reluctant to sell their current M cars with a manual option and had to be talked into it by US enthusiasts who wanted it...and some dealers as an image need.
 
BMW used to be a very sporting brand in the US, but that was long ago and now they are one of the brands for the affluent who are just buying a sporty image, but don't really like to drive very much...or have a clue how to drive a manual.
 
Not all, mind you, but (given the number who want an automatic when they can have a manual) certainly most. BMW knows their market. It's another reason we will not see the 1-Series hatch here...unless they need the EPA numbers. Image.
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Re: $3k off...wow! [shipo] by jlbl
Apr 19, 2009 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Apr 15, 2009 10:31 am)

As far as I know, the 335d isn't available anywhere in the world with a manual transmission. Yes, no?
 
Yes, indeed.
 
Regards,
Jose
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335d and light snow by jlbl
Apr 19, 2009 (1:04 pm)
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Last week I (again) drove uphill my 335d with Bridgestone Potenza RFT summer tires for a few miles on up to 5 inches of fresh snow.
 
To do so, I switched off the traction control (but not the sliding one) as recommended in the BMW manual. To start moving from a full stop, it was enough to put the stick in D mode or M mode and release the brake pedal. Torque was tamed. Too much pressure on the accelerator then or afterwards and the rear end could start to sideslip, though it was easy to control the sliding. With snow tires I don't feel it would be difficult to drive safely a 335d on snow for more long distances — provided enough ground clearance.
 
Here is some pics of the car (in a parking lot free of snow above of the snowed road)
 

 

 

 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: 335d and light snow [jlbl] by nkeen
Apr 19, 2009 (4:19 pm)
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Replying to: jlbl (Apr 19, 2009 1:04 pm)

Great photos -- a haunted treescape. Where were they taken?
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Re: 335d and light snow [nkeen] by jlbl
Apr 19, 2009 (10:31 pm)
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Replying to: nkeen (Apr 19, 2009 4:19 pm)

Where were they taken?
 
In the parking lot of the entrance to Pont d'Espagne. Pont d'Espagne is a mountain pass (by foot) between France and Spain. It belongs to the Central Pyrenees National Park which extends itself on both sides of the border. Closer villages to Pont d'Espagne are Cauterets in France and Panticosa in Spain.
 
You may see more pics of the place in my CarSpace Albums:
 
April Snow (2009)
 
Central Pyrenees 2007
 
Here is some example from there
 

 

 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: 335d and light snow [jlbl] by gagrice
Apr 20, 2009 (4:47 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Apr 19, 2009 10:31 pm)

Thanks Jose, It is something I did not expect in Spain. Another good reason to visit your country. That and being able to rent a diesel car.
 
We are so behind the rest of the world on vehicles. We have been stuck with dinosaurs like GM, Ford & Chrysler for so long. Maybe when they go broke we will get some decent vehicles here in the USA.

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