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Re: $3k off...wow! [cctdi]
by investor27
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Apr 04, 2009 (6:59 pm)
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Replying to: cctdi (Apr 02, 2009 10:44 am)
CCTDI: Would you recommend driving the 335d in Wisconsin during winter? We are moving up there, and I have been looking at the Audi A4 Quadro 2.0T and the 335xi. I don't like the run-flat tires on the 335xi for the central Wisconsin roads, and so we are leaning towards the Audi A4. I have always loved diesel engines, and when the 335d was first announced I knew I had to get one. But now that we are relocating to central Wisconsin, I don't know if it will be okay and wise to own the 335d. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated? Thanks.
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Re: $3k off...wow! [investor27]
by gagrice
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Apr 04, 2009 (7:35 pm)
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Replying to: investor27 (Apr 04, 2009 6:59 pm)
There is a chance that Audi will bring the 2010 A4 Quattro wagon with TDI to the states. It is a crossover with a little higher clearance according to the article I read. It should get about the same MPG as the Jetta Sportwagen Diesel. That would get me to downsize. I wanted the X5 35D but do not want to deal with Urea.
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Re: 335d [investor27]
by jlbl
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Apr 05, 2009 (4:26 am)
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Replying to: investor27 (Apr 04, 2009 6:59 pm)
Aside from RFTs and snow concerns, the best possible feed-back when driving the tamed beast along 500 miles without refilling is guaranteed. 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: $3k off...wow! [investor27]
by cctdi
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Apr 08, 2009 (5:12 pm)
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Replying to: investor27 (Apr 04, 2009 6:59 pm)
Sorry, I haven’t gotten the chance to look the forum in these past few days. To answer your question about the 335D on the snow is an unknown one, I got the car on 27th of March, and I haven’t had a snow day here in South Jersey where I live, beside, I got an AWD 08 RX 400H, I would drive this car on the snowy days. With huge torque on the rear wheels, you got to be very careful to drive the 335D on the snow. I got 07 335xi with RFT, the car was Ok on the snow covered roads, as long as the snow is less than 5” inches, the RFT was quite bumpy, somehow, Bimmer made some progress on RFT on 09 models; the performance RFT on 335D with sport suspension is not as bumpy as the 07 model. The A4 AWD should be good on the snowy roads, but, with only 4.2 ground clearance on its bottom how comfortable would you feel to venture on heavy snow weather days? The forum right after yours is a smaller version of Audi Allroad- the A4 Allroad which is a good car for cold climate region like yours. I drove an 04 Allroad 4.2 for a while, I think that car on the picture is equipped with adjustable high suspension on the tap, the bottom of the car can be as high as an SUV, you ought to take a good look at such a vehicle, especially with the TDI.
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Re: $3k off...wow! [cctdi]
by nopcbs
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Apr 09, 2009 (3:33 am)
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Replying to: cctdi (Apr 08, 2009 5:12 pm)
Aside from ground clearance issues, if you put a decent set of snow tires on any RWD sedan equipped with traction control, you simply are not going to have trouble in snow. I have driven a '92 LS400 (big, heavy car) through mid-Michigan winters since 1994 and only got stuck once...and that was an end of the street snow pile up caused by snow plays coming through after a big snow storm. It is simply not an issue unless you get a huge snow fall and NOTING is going to get through short of a tall 4WD truck.
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Re: $3k off...wow! [nopcbs]
by investor27
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Apr 09, 2009 (3:56 pm)
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Replying to: nopcbs (Apr 09, 2009 3:33 am)
Thanks for the replies, CCTDI and NOPCBS. I would love an A4 Avant diesel, but there's no concrete evidence that Audi will bring it over. Some people have said that it may come in 2010. I really like the 335d. Do you think if I put a good set of snow tires on there that it will be okay with 400ft pound of torque going to the rear wheels, NOPCBS? We will be in mid-Wisconsin, about an hour south of Green Bay, so our driving conditions will be similar to yours, NOPCBS, in mid-Michigan. Thanks.
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can't they remod 123d under Mini dealership?
by Firebird_EOU
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Apr 10, 2009 (2:00 pm)
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if they don't want anything less than 30k in the BMW dealership.
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Re: $3k off...wow! [investor27]
by nopcbs
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Apr 10, 2009 (2:44 pm)
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Replying to: investor27 (Apr 09, 2009 3:56 pm)
No problem because the traction control will control both the throttle and the brakes (via ABS) to prevent slippage. You can turn the traction control off, of course, if you want to slip and slide to your heart's content. Fun on an empty parking lot.
Snow (within reason - 12" of fresh snow and nothing is going to move) is no longer a serious issue for RWD cars equipped with traction control and decent tires.
Hey, I remember growing up in Chicago in the 60's/70's when all cars (except Beetles and a few Fiats) were nose-heavy RWD and most went through the winter with half-worn bias ply tires and we still made it through winter...most of the time. It was "sporty" at times, though.
Nowadays? Piece of cake.
Don't worry about it. You will do fine.
- Geo
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Re: $3k off...wow! [nopcbs]
by gagrice
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Apr 10, 2009 (7:24 pm)
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Replying to: nopcbs (Apr 10, 2009 2:44 pm)
I think FWD is highly over rated on snow. I had a 1970 & 76 Datsun PU with weight in back plus an extended Dodge Van all RWD that out performed both my 1973 Subaru FWD and my 1978 Honda Accord FWD in deep snow. My 1967 VW Bug outperformed them all in snow by far.
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Re: $3k off...wow! [gagrice]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Apr 11, 2009 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 10, 2009 7:24 pm)
Especially when you go uphill---FWD becomes problematic.
A heavy RWD car with 4 snow tires and a good driver can be very effective in snow, as long as it isn't too deep of course.
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