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European First Drive: 2008 Subaru Legacy Boxer Diesel - Kenichi Yamamoto, the man in charge of the development of this car, makes no secret of Subaru's lofty ambitions for the 2008 Subaru Legacy Boxer Diesel, which features the world's first horizontally opposed diesel engine for passenger cars. (more)
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Replying to: iceager (May 20, 2008 1:21 pm) What makes it a Porsche? Tuning? Where's the soul? It's a sport-tuned Touareg.
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 21, 2008 6:34 am) Would it be selling out if they introduced a Boxster Turbo Diesel (powered by Subaru)? 
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Replying to: dcm61 (May 21, 2008 8:18 am)  It would still have the soul of a Subaru, though, not a Porsche. |
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Replying to: gagrice (May 17, 2008 1:41 pm) Just skimming this thread there are alot of comments made about pump cost. I doubt any of those that have commented on pump cost have actually ran the numbers. Generally Diesel runs about 16% more than regular gas but the gas version vs diesel version of the same car - the diesel normally gets 30+% greater milege per gallon. The housing loan disaster is a good example of how limited the American Consumer is when it comes to doing basic math. Add the perception that diesels are stinky - loud and slow and the US market for Diesel is a very challenging one to crack. You'll find that the better educated and those who travel outside the US are most likely the first addopters for diesel passenger cars in the US. Fuel economy even now has a very limited importance in the US we still see people buying SUV's though maybe slightly smaller than their Suburban but they don't do the math a new MDX at $40K that gets low 20mpg on the highway is actually costing them more than keeping the old Suburban. Also very few Americans actually use their cars to their full potential before upgrading to a larger vehicle. This July 4th we have 3 adults a 75lb dog - three golf bags and three bicycles along with one duffle bag each making a 8hr each way road trip in a Subaru Legacy Sedan. We've done this trip many times in this car and it works just fine. Though we could easily take our Landcruiser but we would get 1/2 the milege and be driving way to much car for what we need.
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Replying to: watkinst (Jun 25, 2008 11:36 am) Since it costs more up front, the only real benefit may be increased range.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 26, 2008 7:20 am) That being the case diesels often feel (and are) a lot more powerful than gas engines, especially at lower rpms. This is especially useful when the vehicle is loaded with people and/or towing, or in hilly areas. Bob
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Replying to: rsholland (Jun 26, 2008 7:36 am) It will be an uphill battle given the image problems mentioned above plus the sticker shock at the pump. Around me it's $4.82 and gas is $3.99 (both per Mapquest for my zip code). That's 21% higher cost! 
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 26, 2008 7:45 am) No it won't. A diesel will feel more powerful than a gas engine—most of the time—under most conditions. That has a lot of appeal. Bob |
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Replying to: rsholland (Jun 26, 2008 7:58 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 26, 2008 8:14 am) In flat out acceleration the gasser will win. However, under most "normal" driving the diesel will feel stronger. Bob
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