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Subaru Legacy, Diesel, Sedan
European First Drive: 2008 Subaru Legacy Boxer Diesel - Kenichi Yamamoto, the man in charge of the development of this car, makes no secret of Subaru's lofty ambitions for the 2008 Subaru Legacy Boxer Diesel, which features the world's first horizontally opposed diesel engine for passenger cars. (more)
#23 of 72 Just what I've been searching for
Apr 10, 2008 (9:40 am)
Good crasher, good in snow or gravel, 60 mpg wagon.....Yes please. When can I place my order?
#24 of 72 Re: Subaru, please, bring it to North America!!! [donthegreek]
Apr 16, 2008 (12:37 pm)
Call me cynical but if you could provide some proof to this claim, you would make my year.
May 17, 2008 (12:31 pm)
The only reason we can't buy one now is California?
The rest of us are ready now let California deal without.
Maybe after they suffer long enough somebody will have the gumption to ease up on the emissions requirements.
#26 of 72 Re: Outback Diesel [sequoyah101]
May 17, 2008 (1:41 pm)
There are many people in CA, especially up around San Francisco that like to impose their beliefs on everyone in the WORLD. That is why 8 states now bow to the CARB regulations. Or the CARB puppet states I like to call them. Yes it would be nice if Subaru would at least test the waters in the US market.
Welcome to the Forum!!
#27 of 72 re: outback diesel
May 19, 2008 (7:49 pm)
Let me get this straight. First diesel for this manufacturer based on the only engine design they have had for the last forty years; rushed to market to be able to compete and built with an aluminum block and head when everyone else uses at the very least an iron block and most times also iron head. And it has just come out with no durability testing on the streets. This is the way that GM gets itself into trouble. I would take a wait and see attitude.
#28 of 72 re: outback diesel [iceager]
May 20, 2008 (6:28 am)
Would you be happier if they sold out on their boxer engine philosophy, like Porsche did, and employ VW based V6s?
Iron blocks are heavy and would upset the weight balance of the car.
Sure it's a v1.0, but so is everything new.
#29 of 72 re: outback diesel [iceager]
May 20, 2008 (7:08 am)
Most if not all modern car diesels use an aluminum block and head, and have been doing so for some time.
#30 of 72 re: outback diesel [ateixeira]
May 20, 2008 (1:21 pm)
There is new and then there is radically new i.e. an aluminum block and head.
Porsche did not "sell out", they went with tried and true.
Iron is heavy for a reason, especially concerning stress incurred in diesels.
Considering Subaru's connections with Toyota, GM and Peugeot it is a surprise to me that they would rush an unproven design into production.
#31 of 72 re: outback diesel [rsholland]
May 20, 2008 (2:56 pm)
Is that so? Well....ya learn something new everyday, maybe! Thank you Bob.
#32 of 72 re: outback diesel [iceager]
May 20, 2008 (5:04 pm)
In 2006 MB switched to an aluminum V6 diesel in all the cars and SUVs they sell in the USA. I prefer the prior straight 6 cast iron block. But they are rare in CA. I think that Subaru diesel has got a couple years use in the EU. I do think the Jetta Sportwagon or Tiguan TDI would be my choice. VW is one of the premier diesel engine builders.