Article Comments - 2008 Subaru Legacy Boxer Diesel

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European First Drive: 2008 Subaru Legacy Boxer Diesel - Kenichi Yamamoto, the man in charge of the development of this car, makes no secret of Subaru's lofty ambitions for the 2008 Subaru Legacy Boxer Diesel, which features the world's first horizontally opposed diesel engine for passenger cars. (more)

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#13 of 72 Diesel @ $4.19 and $4.25 by ateixeira Mar 17, 2008 (7:39 am)
Pretty scary, but near me diesel prices have gone through the roof. Above are the last two prices I saw for diesel. Gas, for regerence, is anywhere from $3.29 to $3.39. That extra amount eats up half your savings or so. Replies to this message: hondaru (Mar 20, 2008 12:29 pm) ateixeira (Mar 20, 2008 12:31 pm) alkmaar (Mar 29, 2008 2:00 pm) and 1 more...
#14 of 72 Re: Diesel @ $4.19 and $4.25 [ateixeira] by hondaru Mar 20, 2008 (12:29 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 17, 2008 7:39 am) That's nuts, what happened to the days when diesel was less expensive? The Oil companies must be making money hand over fist with that premium. Auto manufacturers should lobby to bring diesel more in allignment with unleaded or they won't be successful here in the US. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Mar 20, 2008 12:31 pm) alkmaar (Mar 29, 2008 2:00 pm) ateixeira (Mar 31, 2008 7:48 am)
#15 of 72 Re: Diesel @ $4.19 and $4.25 [hondaru] by ateixeira Mar 20, 2008 (12:31 pm)
Replying to: hondaru (Mar 20, 2008 12:29 pm) Prices crept up for low-sulfur diesel, plus maybe demand is higher? I dunno, but this is crazy. Replies to this message: alkmaar (Mar 29, 2008 2:00 pm) ateixeira (Mar 31, 2008 7:48 am)
#16 of 72 Re: Diesel @ $4.19 and $4.25 [ateixeira] by alkmaar Mar 29, 2008 (2:00 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 20, 2008 12:31 pm) Good point. Refining capacity is tight in the US. Gasoline is imported from Europe, so these imports set the price. On-road Diesel has now a 15 ppm Sulfur specification and not all refineries choose to build on-purpose hydrogen production, instead they decided to produce home heating oil and kerosene instead. I don't expect the Diesel price to go down any time soon. As long as the economy grows (and we continue to eat more and consume more per capita!), there will be need for more trucks to move those products. However, having driven direct injected/common rail diesel driven cars in the past, I can tell you that these are pretty sophisticated engines with great torque curve. You don't get your 0-60 in 5 seconds (as most car buyers want) but with the torque of these new diesels, you will never notice the difference between your car empty or loaded with five adults with luggage and going uphill. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Mar 31, 2008 7:48 am)
#17 of 72 Re: Diesel @ $4.19 and $4.25 [alkmaar] by ateixeira Mar 31, 2008 (7:48 am)
Replying to: alkmaar (Mar 29, 2008 2:00 pm) I have not driven the very latest Bluetec Benz, but the prior model had a bit of turbo lag. The throttle was like an on/off switch. I hope the newer ones have a smoother and more linear power delivery.
#18 of 72 Subaru, please, bring it to North America!!! by donthegreek Mar 31, 2008 (7:08 pm)
Its coming...late 2009 Legacy and Outback models with Diesel. Replies to this message: gagrice (Apr 06, 2008 7:07 pm) rsholland (Apr 07, 2008 5:53 am) xwesx (Apr 07, 2008 1:55 pm) paisan (Apr 07, 2008 5:56 pm) jdharrin (Apr 16, 2008 12:37 pm)
#19 of 72 Re: Subaru, please, bring it to North America!!! [donthegreek] by gagrice Apr 06, 2008 (7:07 pm)
Replying to: donthegreek (Mar 31, 2008 7:08 pm) I might be persuaded to sell my Sequoia and buy a diesel Outback. My wife likes the looks of them. A bit smaller than I like. If it would get 40+ MPG on the highway as the EU version. For that I can give up a bit of comfort and space. I may even go test drive one with the gas engine. Replies to this message: rsholland (Apr 07, 2008 5:53 am) xwesx (Apr 07, 2008 1:55 pm) paisan (Apr 07, 2008 5:56 pm)
#20 of 72 Re: Subaru, please, bring it to North America!!! [gagrice] by rsholland Apr 07, 2008 (5:53 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Apr 06, 2008 7:07 pm) When the Outback diesel arrives here, it will be on the all-new—and larger 2010 (or later) Outback. Bob Replies to this message: xwesx (Apr 07, 2008 1:55 pm) paisan (Apr 07, 2008 5:56 pm)
#21 of 72 Re: Subaru, please, bring it to North America!!! [rsholland] by xwesx Apr 07, 2008 (1:55 pm)
Replying to: rsholland (Apr 07, 2008 5:53 am) With the way fuel prices are consistently skyrocketing, all bets are off for me in terms of something new. I may just stick with the (cheap, old) used car market for a while, if necessary, until things stabilize a bit. Yeah, my minivan only gets 18-20 mpg, but it is in all other cost-related ways better than anything new. I will definitely keep my eye on Subaru, though. I know this was a random remark - sorry 'bout that.
#22 of 72 Re: Subaru, please, bring it to North America!!! [rsholland] by paisan Apr 07, 2008 (5:56 pm)
Replying to: rsholland (Apr 07, 2008 5:53 am) I haven't heard anything firm about a diesel in 2010 for the leg/outback. I did hear that the new legacy is significantly larger than the current one, and LIGHTER. Less agressive than the current generation. Front of a G35, rear of a GS430. -mike