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European First Drive: 2008 Subaru Legacy Boxer Diesel - Kenichi Yamamoto, the man in charge of the development of this car, makes no secret of Subaru's lofty ambitions for the 2008 Subaru Legacy Boxer Diesel, which features the world's first horizontally opposed diesel engine for passenger cars. (more)
#2 of 72 Re: Article Comments - 2008 Subaru Legacy Boxer Diesel [KarenS]
Jan 30, 2008 (9:39 am)
Nice to read so many rave reviews. That's the 3rd article I've read about it and all were pretty much universally positive.
Too bad it doesn't meet CARB standards. That will delay any US hopes.
Jan 30, 2008 (1:37 pm)
when is the release date for this car in the US?
#4 of 72 Re: when? [pengwin]
Jan 31, 2008 (8:11 am)
The diesel doesn't meet CARB standards. So it can't be sold in Cali or the state in the NE that have the same emissions standards.
It is very doubtful we will ever see that specific engine in the US. They will have to add a particulate filter and figure out a way to get the $1500 cost for that down. Right now the diesel is about a grand higher in price, so $2500 may be too steep a markup.
That would take a very long time to break-even, at least.
Having said that, I think about 3 models years from now (2011 is my guess), we'll see some sort of Subaru diesel.
#5 of 72 Re: when? [ateixeira]
Jan 31, 2008 (8:15 am)
Subaru has said they won't bring it over until they can sell it in every state. In order to do so, they may have to add some gizmo (I forget what it's called), which could add $1500 to the cost of thee engine.
#6 of 72 Re: when? [rsholland]
Jan 31, 2008 (8:19 am)
I was thinking the same thing. I doubt they would sell the current diesel powertrain in only 45 states, especially when they're biggest niche is New England, and many states there follow CARB rules.
#7 of 72 Re: when? [ateixeira]
Jan 31, 2008 (2:42 pm)
This is the car I've been waiting for. I hope they can figure out an inexpensive way to follow CARB rules. Was that a misprint or did I read 60 mpg? They'd sell 100K per year! If Jetta and MB CDI can do it, Subaru should. Perhaps they are waiting to see how the MB and the Jetta perform in the market.
#8 of 72 Re: when? [hondaru]
Jan 31, 2008 (3:34 pm)
thats actually what im holding out on as far as purchasing a new car, gonna wait until march for the TDI sport wagon
#9 of 72 Re: when? [ateixeira]
Feb 01, 2008 (7:50 am)
Actually $2500 premium is not that much. If you look at the cost in the truck segment, most upgrades to diesel are $7000 and up!
#10 of 72 Re: when? [pengwin]
Feb 01, 2008 (9:50 am)
VW has postponed the TDI powerplant a couple of times, IIRC. It's not an easy thing to do.
Bluetec is awesome but how 'bout a price tag for those of us with a mortgage?