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#3 of 12 Re: Driving the Aveo on the highway [greenboot] by poncho167 Jan 28, 2008 (5:33 am)
Replying to: greenboot (Jan 26, 2008 2:12 pm) No different than any other sub-compact car as far as wind buffering. They all get blown around on the freeway. That new Smartcar will be even worse than these because it has a higher roofline and is lighter. The Smartcar doesn't really sound to smart from the reports that I have seen and read so far. Replies to this message: scottl (Jan 28, 2008 1:40 pm)
#4 of 12 Re: Driving the Aveo on the highway [poncho167] by scottl Jan 28, 2008 (1:40 pm)
Replying to: poncho167 (Jan 28, 2008 5:33 am) The smart is in an entirely different league than an Aveo. It is designed by Mercedes for a specific niche, which is being the ultimate city car while also being safe and of very high quality.   The MSRP is only a little higher, but the list of standard features is huge in favor of the smart. The smart comes standard with antilock brakes, traction control and stability control. It has 15" wheels standard. It is much smaller than an Aveo and gets much better mileage.   It you compare a loaded Aveo to a loaded smart, the interior experience of the smart is much nicer.   The smart is not meant to be a highway car, but it can go on the highway if desired (top speed is about 90mph). The smart has sold out for the first year, so if anyone is considering one, they should put their name on the list for 2009.
#5 of 12 Umm... by iluvmysephia1 Feb 01, 2008 (10:06 am)
better re-check that SmartForSomeone ghastly mileage. I read a review on the Smart car in Automobile magazine and the guy drove from Phoenix to the Grand Canyon and got 31 mpg. Not exactly chart-topping ghastly mileage. The car was buffeted a lot by semis on the freeways but that is what we would expect from a car this size and weight. Replies to this message: poncho167 (Feb 02, 2008 5:23 am)
#6 of 12 Re: Driving the Aveo on the highway [greenboot] by greenboot Feb 01, 2008 (11:52 am)
Replying to: greenboot (Jan 26, 2008 2:12 pm) After a test drive, I decided to get the Spicy Orange hatchback. Although acceleration up to speed takes a while, it seems happy to maintain highway speeds. After two days, I'm happy with the car. Now I'm looking for an in-dash Sirius radio to replace the stock unit. Tom
#7 of 12 Re: Umm... [iluvmysephia1] by poncho167 Feb 02, 2008 (5:23 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Feb 01, 2008 10:06 am) Yes, those who have read about or seen tests on the Smart (not to smart) no that it is not a very good car. The mileage as you mention is not good and its rated at something like 32/38 which is bad for this tiny of a car. It would be a good city commuter based on size for parking, but this car would crush like a garbage can in a wreck. It maybe sold out because there is a limited supply for the demand of people who put down money on these things last year thinking it was some kind of miracle car which it is not.
#8 of 12 Aveo vs. Smart car? by richard1haines May 14, 2008 (2:22 pm)
The Aveo was designed at GMDAT (GM Daewoo Automotive Technology) in Korea with imput from Holden (GM Australia) and GM China. I drive daily on the motorway and the Aveo has no trouble staying at 140km/hr.   The smart pure is sold in Canada for $14,900 less a $2000 government rebate. It's top speed is 145km/hr. The smart pure is about $500 less than an Aveo 5 here up north. We have tonnes of smarts on the road. They sell about 14,000 units of smart per year which is about half the number of GM Aveos/Pontiac Waves that are sold per year   The aveo is rated at 5.5litres per 100km of travel or about 43 US MPG for highway driving. My aveo gets an average of about 7.9 litres per 100km combined city/hwy. which is about US 30MPG. Versus 4.2 with smart car or about 65 US MPG.   The ratings for the 2009 smart car:   The new generation of diesel vehicles equipped with advanced technology such as the common rail diesel cdi engines provides an improvement of approximatively 40% in fuel consumption when compared to gasoline engines. The smart fortwo's fuel consumption is rated at 4.2 litres/ 100km for combined highway and city driving (highway: 3.8 litres/100 km, city: 4.6 litres/100 km).   http://www.thesmart.ca is the website for smart canada. Replies to this message: tootal2 (May 15, 2008 9:14 am) poncho167 (May 15, 2008 5:51 pm) richard1haines (May 16, 2008 3:12 pm) poncho167 (May 17, 2008 4:20 am)
#9 of 12 Re: Aveo vs. Smart car? [richard1haines] by tootal2 May 15, 2008 (9:14 am)
Replying to: richard1haines (May 14, 2008 2:22 pm) I rather have the aveo then a smart car. Smart car can only hold two people and you cant carry much in a smart car.
#10 of 12 Re: Aveo vs. Smart car? [richard1haines] by poncho167 May 15, 2008 (5:51 pm)
Replying to: richard1haines (May 14, 2008 2:22 pm) The 5-door Aveo in its current form was designed in Italy by Italdesign or something like that. If you have seen Italian cars than you may have seen several cars that have the Aveo look over in Europe.   Here in the U.S. so far that Smart car is not considered very smart when you consider the high price, styling, small size, poor fuel economy for such a small car (Mitsu engine), and still greater chance for serious injuries because of its weight regardless of acceptable rated crash tests buy one of the two crash test organizations. One can buy a number of larger cars here that get as good of mileage or better with more room for the same or less money. Replies to this message: richard1haines (May 16, 2008 3:12 pm) poncho167 (May 17, 2008 4:20 am)
#11 of 12 Re: Aveo vs. Smart car? [poncho167] by richard1haines May 16, 2008 (3:12 pm)
Replying to: poncho167 (May 15, 2008 5:51 pm) You say that there are a number of larger cars in the USA that get as good fuel consumption as the smart?   The new generation of diesel vehicles equipped with advanced technology such as the common rail diesel cdi engines provides an improvement of approximatively 40% in fuel consumption when compared to gasoline engines. The smart fortwo's fuel consumption is rated at 4.2 litres/ 100km for combined highway and city driving (highway: 3.8 litres/100 km, city: 4.6 litres/100 km).   The new CDI smart car goes on sale as a 2009 model in Canada later this year. The combined fuel mileage for city/hwy is about 70 MPG (imperial gallon). I think there are no fuel powered cars in the USA that can even get close to that!   The current smart car in USA and Canada gets an average combined fuel consumption rating of 5.6 litres/100km of travel. I don't believe there are any cars for sale in both USA/Canada that match that.   My aveo sedan uses an average of about 7.6litres per 100km for combined driving which is almost double the fuel a new smart CDI would use! Replies to this message: poncho167 (May 17, 2008 4:20 am)
#12 of 12 Re: Aveo vs. Smart car? [richard1haines] by poncho167 May 17, 2008 (4:20 am)
Replying to: richard1haines (May 16, 2008 3:12 pm) The Smart diesel is not available here in the states. The gas aspirated diesel Smart estimated economy is 30 city 40 highway. There are a number of cars that can do that or pretty close to it. The hybrids definately can.   The Smart would be a great car in the inner cities like Chicago, New York, Montreal, Toronto, etc., for parking.

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