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Toyota Yaris vs Chevy Aveo

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Yaris vs Aveo by bobokadof
Jan 25, 2008 (8:19 am)
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which is better?
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Re: Yaris vs Aveo [bobokadof] by lhanson
Jan 28, 2008 (4:32 am)
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Replying to: bobokadof (Jan 25, 2008 8:19 am)

Unless the Yaris has been in a wreck, I think most people would it is the better of the two.
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Better is relative... by timseh
Jan 31, 2008 (1:27 pm)
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It depends a lot on what you mean by "better". Dollar for dollar, you'll get more for your money with the Aveo. At least in the analysis I did when choosing between the 2 (and the Honda Fit).
 
Make a list of pros and cons and compare them side by side.
 
For me, some of the big ones were:
Aveo:
+Price (GM Supplier Discount)
+Comfortable ride
+Decent mileage
+Reasonably "adult" styling (sedan)
+A/C Standard
+Warranty (5 year 100,000 mile power-train)
-Front cupholders suck!
 
Yaris:
+Sporty ride
+Decent mileage, but only 1 MPG better than EPA ratings on the Aveo now that the EPA has changed the tests for 2008.
+OK styling. Wouldn't be embarrassed to be seen in it.
-Interior layout (gauges, etc) is awful.
-Warranty (5 year 60,000 mile power-train)
 
If it weren't for the GM Suppliers discount I got and the difference in the Warranty, it would be a coin toss for me based on which dealer pissed me off the least in the process of evaluating and buying the car. Lots of people will talk about the great cars Toyota makes and their opinion that the Aveo, which is made by Daewoo (now owned by GM) is a piece of Korean crap. Personally, I know plenty of people who have problems with their "wonderful" Toyotas. If we were moving up a rung in the food chain, then I'd lean much more heavily to the Toyota over a Chevy, but there's not really a lot of difference at this level.
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seeing is believing by ttai
Jan 31, 2008 (4:50 pm)
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http://www.cars.com/go/video/player.jsp?makeid=9&year=2007&modelid=7214&location- =MW_L_2007_Chevrolet_Aveo.flv&aff=national
http://www.cars.com/go/video/player.jsp?makeid=47&year=2007&modelid=8242&locatio- n=MW_L_2007_Toyota_Yaris.flv&aff=national
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Re: Better is relative... [timseh] by poncho167
Feb 02, 2008 (5:17 am)
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Replying to: timseh (Jan 31, 2008 1:27 pm)

Yes, but Toyota service writers are trained to brainwash customers into thinking that every service issue is normal wear and tear regardless if its covered repair or not. This helps lead to the perception that Toyota's are the best. My friends old Hyundai Excell had the clutch go out at around 80,000 miles but he didn't have to pay for it because he had and extended warranty. He tells everyone that he never had a problem with it based on not paying out of pocket for service.
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Re: Better is relative... [poncho167] by ttai
Feb 02, 2008 (5:50 am)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Feb 02, 2008 5:17 am)

So Toyota service departments are the only ones lying to their customers and that accounts for their astounding reputation for the past 40 years? I guess Chevrolet dealerships are completely honest and that's why they have such a lousy reputation. Come on man.
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Re: Better is relative... [timseh] by bamacar
Feb 02, 2008 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: timseh (Jan 31, 2008 1:27 pm)

The Yaris gets 36/29 under the 2008 system. The Aveo gets 34/24. That's not 1 mpg; that's a 3.5 mpg difference.
 
Here is my analysis:
 
Aveo
 
Numb handling
Below average mpg for class
Boring interior
Below average price
Poor resale
 
Yaris
 
Comfortable ride
Best mpg in class
Quirky but interesting interior
Above average price
Very good resale
 
Fit
 
Sporty handling
Better than average mpg in class
Most flexible interior
High price
Excellent resale
 
Aveo is much improved over previous generation, but the price advantage for the average customer (no special GM discounts) is not significant enough to pull me away from better handling and better mpgs of the Toyota or Honda especially when down the road resale value is important.
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Re: Better is relative... [bamacar] by timseh
Feb 02, 2008 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: bamacar (Feb 02, 2008 7:58 am)

Actually, the Yaris Sedan with 5 speed manual is rated at 29 city and 36 highway under the 2008 criteria. Even Toyota's web site has those numbers.
 
2 MPG highway isn't enough to break the deal for me.
 
As for the fit, I think the "excellent resale" value has yet to be proven. It hasn't been on the market in the U.S. long enough to prove itself in that regard. And anyone who's willing to pay more just because it's a Honda should really be re-thinking their priorities. Honda's good, but they have their share of issues as well.
 
Besides which, I tend to keep my cars a long time. By the time I get rid of them, they usually have over 150,000 miles on them, which pretty much kills that "excellent resale" value, regardless of brand.
 
And, there was the matter of a GM suppliers discount that came into play for me as well.
 
I'm not saying the Yaris is a bad car. Not by any stretch, but I didn't care for it. Believe me, I wanted to love it. It was the first thing I looked at, and until I actually got behind the wheel, I thought for sure it's what I was going to buy.
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Re: Better is relative... [timseh] by bamacar
Feb 02, 2008 (8:17 pm)
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Replying to: timseh (Feb 02, 2008 6:12 pm)

2 mpg highway and 5 mpg city for the average of 3.5 mpg difference. Either of these cars is more suited to city use in my opinion. If you drive it 150k, resale does make little difference. The Fit has been very in demand and just about all Hondas have the highest resale value even versus Toyota. It will be a big surprise if the Fit does not have the best resale value in the class.
 
150k miles divided by Yaris 32.5 mpg = 4615 gallons
150k miles divided by Aveo 29.0 mpg = 5172 gallons
 
The difference is 557 gallons saved times $3 a gallon is $1671.00.
If gas continues upward and averages $4 over the lifetime, it will be $2228.00.
 
Hope the initial savings plus interest offsets the reduced gas costs and the difference in values at the end of the cars' lives.
 
I just saw a 2007 Aveo5 used with 8000 miles for $6995. Now that might be a ticket to savings.
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Re: Better is relative... [ttai] by poncho167
Feb 03, 2008 (6:04 am)
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Replying to: ttai (Feb 02, 2008 5:50 am)

No one said that they were the only ones lying to their customers about service ralated issues, I just said that is part of their corporate game (not dealer) as a whole in how they opperate. In my upbringing Chevrolet had/has a great reputation for reliability as well as longevity. The old saying is buy a Chevrolet and it will be the last vehicle you will buy. My 1992 S10 p/u will just not die but is pretty rusty. While there are still a lot of 1970's and 80's Chevrolets on the road, here in the midwest it is rare to see a 1980's Toyota still on the road. Just to let you know or remind you Toyota has the worst customer service satisfaction in the industry per a JD Powers survey last year if I recall the survey company correctly.

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