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Re: New isn't much more [timseh]
by wave54
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Jan 25, 2008 (11:32 pm)
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Replying to: timseh (Jan 25, 2008 4:42 pm)
You'll find that there are just as many horror stories about the Yaris and the Fit out there as there are about the Aveo.
Wrong! I've followed every message on the Fit/Yaris/Versa boards since they were introduced and there are virtually ZERO problems by comparison. A couple of glitches with some sensors on early Versas and a dashboard rattle on the Yaris seems to be it for complaints.
It's arguably a decent used car at $8-10K, but at $13,500, I'd go for a Toyota/Honda before another Aveo. Quality seems to be inconsistent and some replacement parts can be very pricey vs other brands.
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Re: New isn't much more [wave54]
by poncho167
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Jan 26, 2008 (5:27 am)
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Replying to: wave54 (Jan 25, 2008 11:32 pm)
The Honda Fit just had a recall for air bags not working. The Yaris complaints that I have read are the poor interior layout, quality of materials, butt ugly appearance, and mileage. Most of those complaints are the owners fault for buying the car based on previous perceptions of Toyota quality and not giving it a thorough going over before purchase. Based on looks alone I would buy anything but the Yaris, I couldn't live with that. Oh I forgot, Toyota dealers service writers have a reputation of brainwashing customers into believing that defects are just normal wear and tear issues.
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Re: New isn't much more [wave54]
by timseh
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Jan 27, 2008 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: wave54 (Jan 25, 2008 11:32 pm)
This particular site isn't the only source of information. All things being equal, I'd have to say that the Fit is probably a better car than the Aveo, and the Yaris is probably about on par with it, though I don't care for the look of the Yaris at all and I think the interior fit and finish is not on par with the Aveo...
But all things aren't equal. For one, the price of both the Yaris and Fit is substantially more (when you're talking about this price range at any rate) than the Aveo. It was made even more so for me thanks to a GM Supplier discount.
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Re: New isn't much more [poncho167]
by wave54
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Jan 27, 2008 (11:38 am)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Jan 26, 2008 5:27 am)
I was referring to long-term reliability, not appearance and interior layout. You can see that at the dealer's lot. What you can't see is how a car will hold up at 100K or 200K miles -- every modern car sold is expected to last a bare minimum of 150K miles over its lifespan. Many will go much higher than that.
I bought my Aveo for the attractive price compared to Honda/Toyota, but the maintenance and repair cost, compared to other cars I've owned, has more than erased the initial savings.
It's not a bad car for those who will keep it less than 50K miles and then trade, though.
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Re: New isn't much more [wave54]
by poncho167
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Jan 28, 2008 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: wave54 (Jan 27, 2008 11:38 am)
Wave, isn't your car the 150,000 + mile Aveo that was posted on here last year. If not I must be thinking of someone else who used their car for an auto parts store runabout. 50,000 miles would be ridiculous at this time of age and my 1988 Pontiac Lemans (Daewoo) would easily exceed 100,000 without any big problems though I got rid of it at 44,000 miles because it was too small and I didn't feel safe. It did get very good mileage though and the only issues I had with it was an ignition starting problem whenever it rained or had heavy moisture in the air I wasn't too confident that it would start. It had a poor design flaw at least the first year with the ignition coil facing the ground in a stupid place asking for trouble. I did get the extended warranty which saved me though. It had the SOHC 1.6 engine. What could I expect for $5,990.
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Re: New isn't much more [poncho167]
by wave54
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Jan 28, 2008 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Jan 28, 2008 5:45 am)
Wave, isn't your car the 150,000 + mile Aveo that was posted on here last year. If not I must be thinking of someone else who used their car for an auto parts store runabout.
I used to put on quite a few miles up until last June -- about 1200 mi./week, but I did that for the last 15 years with other vehicles as well. The Aveo had more maintenance issues than it should have for a modern car. I had a 1978 Pinto that was much less expensive to maintain in over 100K miles!
There's no doubt that the car will run for many miles, but at what cost? I drove a company-provided 97 Kia that had 250K on it when I returned it. It was in decent shape if you overlook the thousands that were dumped into the car to keep it going.
One of my co-workers sold her 2 Echos with 180K and 340K in 2006 to buy a Scion xB that now has 120K miles. She's had ZERO unplanned maintenance on any of the 3 cars -- only one brake service on the older Echo. I saw her every day -- I know she had no breakdowns, yet I'm pulling up in a rental with the Aveo in the shop again.
I looked at the Echo before I bought the Aveo. They were few and far between and thousands more than what I paid for the equivalent car. I thought the Echo was as ugly as sin, but ultimate reliability and low costs are my priority.
I balked at the price -- my bad.
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Re: are they worth buying [bobokadof]
by yngwie
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May 06, 2008 (5:55 am)
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Replying to: bobokadof (Jan 24, 2008 7:02 pm)
I bought a 2007 aveo 5 LS with 2k for only 9 grand. It is in excellent contition has the cd/mp3 player and fog lights. So far I love this car. It now has 6500 miles. I used to drive a crown vic and the gas was killing me. I drive about 350 miles a week.
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Re: are they worth buying [yngwie]
by poncho167
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May 10, 2008 (4:20 am)
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Replying to: yngwie (May 06, 2008 5:55 am)
Have fun with the car but follow the maintenance schedule and you will have the car for many years to come.
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Re: are they worth buying - 120,000+ miles and climbing
by jayman1967
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Jun 06, 2008 (10:29 am)
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Replying to: yngwie (May 06, 2008 5:55 am)
The Aveo is worth buying! I have a 2005 Aveo with a manual transmission with 120,000 miles on it and I still get 40-42 miles a gallon. I drive 170 miles a day of highway driving to work and back and I have had very little problems with the car. My Aveo is little beat up, I drive on dirt roads, so there are dents in the body, missing gas cover and a cracked windshield, but it runs like a charm. It has never failed to start even in -20 below zero weather here in Minnesota. I plan on buying another Aveo once this one reaches 200,000 miles.
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You
by thomasz
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Jun 08, 2008 (6:21 pm)
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That's your choice. So don't worry. 
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