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#51 of 364 Re: don't forget (dairyshick) (nippononly) (biker4) [hpmctorque] by biker4 Apr 27, 2008 (11:05 am)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Apr 25, 2008 7:44 am) On the surface it might make sense to keep the TSX FWD but there's a couple of reasons I don't think it will happen. First the TL is so established, like the ES was for Lexus, they can't kill its formula. Unlike now where they basically have 3 mid sized sedans, if/when they switch to RWD, there'll be much bigger difference in sizes. So the TSX would actually shrink to not only make it different from the RL in the US but also different from the EuroAccord in other markets. Because in other markets badge engineering doesn't work the TSX has to be RWD to differentiate it from Honda offerings.
#52 of 364 My Take by hpmctorque May 02, 2008 (6:42 pm)
I looiked at and sat in the '09 TSX at the Acura dealer, but didn't test drive it. The '09 looks better from the side and from the back, in my opinion, than the previous generation TSX. The front doesn't look as good, and while I'm not a fan of the new grille, I could live with it. The interior of the new model looks better, but I miss the faux wood grain applications that came with some color combinations, and doesn't in the '09. All '09s come with the brushed metal look. It's contemporary, but I prefer the older wood grain look.   The biggest weakness of the interior is the modest rear seat leg room. It's rather tight back there, unless the front passengers put their seats up quite a bit.
#53 of 364 My Take by hpmctorque May 03, 2008 (1:27 am)
I should add that the wheelbase and overall length of the '09 TSX are 1 1/2 inches longer and 2 inches longer, respectively, than those of the '08 TSX. Also, the rear seat leg room of the TSX is slightly less than that of the Honda Civic (34.3 inches vs. 34.6 inches) and 1.8 inches less than the '08 Ford Focus 4 door. Further, the BMW 3-Series sedan provides .3 inches more leg room, despite being RWD and 8 inches shorter overall than the '09 TSX. These comparisons were made using Edmund's New Car Comparison Specs.   Keep these comparisons in mind if you should try the back seat of the new TSX, and see if you don't agree that, given the increased size of the car, Acura should have provided rear seat passengers with greater leg room. The considerable increase in width of the new model doesn't compensate for the lack of more back seat legroom. It's disappointing.
#54 of 364 Full Test by hpmctorque May 16, 2008 (12:14 pm)
Edmunds full test of the new TSX is very unflattering. In view of this, I'll be following the sales figures of this car with much interest. They'll say a lot about whether buyers of this car put more value on styling, options, and Acura's reliability than the driving experience, which isn't great, according to Edmunds.   I hope the '09 TL fares better than the TSX. Replies to this message: nippononly (May 16, 2008 7:11 pm)
#55 of 364 Re: Full Test [hpmctorque] by nippononly May 16, 2008 (7:11 pm)
Replying to: hpmctorque (May 16, 2008 12:14 pm) Holy Smokes! You weren't kidding! I saw your post and went to read the review:   "To its credit, the redesigned 2009 Acura TSX doesn't try to hide its aversion to fast driving."   Steering: "Worse, the new setup has an unsettling lack of predictability. It doesn't deliver a sense of secure stability when the TSX is pointed straight ahead on the freeway and it also takes too long for the power assist to drop away as your speed increases."   Acceleration: "The 2009 Acura TSX is also an easy mark for almost any family sedan with a V6, especially when equipped with the five-speed automatic. We tested a TSX with the five-speed and its 0-to-60-mph time fell to 8.6 seconds (8.3 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip). That's slower than all four of the family sedans in our last comparison test which included the Chevrolet Malibu, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima and Toyota Camry."   Handling: "There's considerable body roll and the P225/50R17 Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 all-season tires run out of grip quickly. And the lack of steering feedback makes you feel like you're driving the 2009 TSX half-blind"   "This has real consequences in the slalom, where the Acura averages only 64.1 mph, one of the slowest speeds we've recorded among current-day, premium-brand cars. It's 1.5 mph slower than a 3,600-pound Honda Accord EX-L V6. Even a Mitsubishi Lancer with a weakling 2.0-liter engine and a power-sapping continuously variable transmission beats the TSX through the cones with a 65.4-mph speed"   Braking: "But this particular set of brakes for the 2009 Acura TSX isn't fully up to the task of stopping a 3,400-pound car"   "The TSX won't stop any shorter from 60 mph than 127 feet, which is 14 feet farther than an all-wheel-drive Lexus IS 250 that weighs 100 pounds more (and costs the same). The TSX's brakes fade dramatically after just one stop, and there's smoke coming off the rotors by the third run. The car isn't happy. We're not happy"   Wow. This might be a first for Honda, they have managed to design and build the antithesis of a driver's car. Worse yet, they have designated it an Acura, their "premium brand".
#56 of 364 Move this thread by biker4 May 18, 2008 (10:05 am)
Hosts - the car has been out for a month, it doesn't need to be in the future section.
#57 of 364 guess lots of people disagreed with me! by nippononly Jun 05, 2008 (5:29 pm)
May sales: "· Best-ever Acura TSX sales. Acura sold 4,564 units of the redesigned TSX, breaking the April 2006 record of 3,911 sold. TSX sales soared 53.7 percent ahead of last May's."   http://www.autoobserver.com/2008/06/big-three-big-vehicles-taken-to-the-watershe- d-in-may.html#more
#58 of 364 guess lots of people disagreed with me! (nippononly) by hpmctorque Jun 05, 2008 (10:33 pm)
Those May TSX sales comparisons are very impressive. One month doesn't make a trend, though, so lets see what happens during the rest of the year, and to Acura Division sales overall. The launch of the '09 TL will have a significant effect on the Division's '08 sales, of course. Replies to this message: bodble2 (Jun 06, 2008 4:44 pm)
#59 of 364 Re: guess lots of people disagreed with me! (nippononly) [hpmctorque] by bodble2 Jun 06, 2008 (4:44 pm)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Jun 05, 2008 10:33 pm) Aside from better mpg, I still see no real compelling reason to buy the '09 TSX over an '08 TL, nor over an '08 TSX (if there are any left) for that matter.
#60 of 364 I like it by stones3131 Jun 17, 2008 (12:56 pm)
I am no car expert at all, but I must say, I disagree with how this car is getting "bashed."   First off, for someone who wants to make an entry into the "luxury" line of cars (lexus, acrua, infiniti, audi etc.) this car makes the choice easier for me.   It's priced under $30k (w/out Nav), comes pretty loaded up with leather, sunroof and others. And I actually like the new style. I can't get a new Lexus IS, Infiniti G35, or Acura TL for less than $34k.   Even though it's only a 4 cylinder, who cares? Doesn't that mean less gas consumption to some extent? The other cars I am considering is the 08 Accord and the 08 Maxima.   Naturally the 08 Accord is "almost" the same interior and engine as the 09 TSX, but I think I might actually pay the extra money b/c I think the TSX looks better than the 08 Accord.   I personally don't need speed at all, afterall, how fast can you actually go with other cars on the road?   Anyway, I just wanted to throw my two cents out there. This coming from a novice when it comes to handling, steering and all that other stuff. I test drove the car for a half hour and thought the ride was quite nice. Replies to this message: nippononly (Jun 17, 2008 6:04 pm) bodble2 (Jun 17, 2008 6:11 pm)

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