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Re: Not Bad [balla] by satoauto
Feb 11, 2008 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: balla (Feb 11, 2008 12:18 pm)

I'm sure it has more to do with dealer inventories on the 2008s. If dealers have too many cars, they hold the pics to give us time to sell out the current model. Once there are no cars ('08s) left to sell, they need to "freeze" buyers until the car comes out so the show the photo.
 
I think is is possible that SH and Turbos may come later, but based on what we've ordered, this is not in the cards for Aprils cars.
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Re: 2009 TSX vs Lexus IS250 [aviboy97] by raychuang00
Feb 12, 2008 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Feb 11, 2008 9:01 am)

I don't think you are going to get 230-240 hp out of the n/a 2.4L. My guess is a 10hp increase, at most. Also, it will only by FWD, and no turbo.
 
If Honda can get 240 bhp out of a 2.2-liter I-4 engine (the F22C used on the S2000 sportster), they could easily get around 230 bhp out of a new 2.4-liter I-4, especially if they use the new Advanced VTEC valvetrain that was announced back in the fall of 2006. And unlike the F22C engine, the use of Advanced VTEC means you don't need to rev the engine to high RPM to get decent power.
 
I personally think the Acura TSX may become the first US-model Honda to use such an engine.
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Re: 2009 TSX vs Lexus IS250 [raychuang00] by fedlawman
Feb 12, 2008 (4:54 pm)
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Replying to: raychuang00 (Feb 12, 2008 6:46 am)

"unlike the F22C engine, the use of Advanced VTEC means you don't need to rev the engine to high RPM to get decent power."
 
Doesn't sound like much fun to me.
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Re: 2009 TSX vs Lexus IS250 [fedlawman] by satoauto
Feb 13, 2008 (2:18 am)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Feb 12, 2008 4:54 pm)

Acura press release with all the info for 2009
 
l2009 TSX at world.honda.com
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Re: 2009 TSX vs Lexus IS250 [satoauto] by cdnpinhead
Feb 13, 2008 (4:51 am)
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Replying to: satoauto (Feb 13, 2008 2:18 am)

Not a word about the diesel. Oh well. . .
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Re: 2009 TSX vs Lexus IS250 [cdnpinhead] by satoauto
Feb 13, 2008 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Feb 13, 2008 4:51 am)

They have already announced the Diesel for 2009..... Ca lander year 2009 which means it will debut for the 2010 TSX in the fall of '09
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Re: 2009 TSX vs Lexus IS250 [satoauto] by fedlawman
Feb 13, 2008 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: satoauto (Feb 13, 2008 9:47 am)

Thanks for the link.
 
Interesting that the press release states an increase in performance, but it looks like all they did was trade 4 HP for 8 lb ft TQ. I'm guessing that we'll see a lower redline in addition to the other minor tweaks (valve timing, compression, etc).
 
I'm also guessing that the added size and chassis strengthening is going to add weight.
 
Lower redline, a higher curb weight, and more luxury means the new TSX is following in the footsteps of all the other lux sport sedan manufacturers. I hope I'm wrong...
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Re: 2009 TSX vs Lexus IS250 [fedlawman] by satoauto
Feb 13, 2008 (3:02 pm)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Feb 13, 2008 11:45 am)

Yeah, well the new Accord didn't get significantly heavier even with the ACE structure (higher % of high strength steel), and I'm hoping the TSX will follow suit. Having said that, I did place our last Arctic blue 6-speed on hold. I need a car in 1 1/2 months when my S2000 lease is up and the '08 might suit me better.
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Engine by ego29iste
Feb 13, 2008 (8:11 pm)
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As a current TSX '06 6spd owner, I am disappointed with the specs of the new car - mainly in terms of power. I was looking forward to the new TSX dreaming of SH-AWD and 260 plus horses.
 
If this is a strategy where they will introduce a type s model with the specs I mentioned above later down the road to maintain interest in the model I am not sure if it will pay off. I imagine a lot of TSX owners were waiting for the new TSX to trade up at least in '09 once the first year model gremlins were worked out. These owners might get tempted with other market place offerings...
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Re: 2009 TSX vs Lexus IS250 [raychuang00] by aviboy97
Feb 14, 2008 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: raychuang00 (Feb 12, 2008 6:46 am)

Honda can get 240 bhp out of a 2.2-liter I-4 engine (the F22C used on the S2000 sportster), they could easily get around 230 bhp out of a new 2.4-liter I-4, especially if they use the new Advanced VTEC valvetrain that was announced back in the fall of 2006
 
I'm not saying they can't. I'm saying they won't. Honda does have an issue with not being able to achieve and represent able torque numbers. An S2000 weighs only 2864 lbs, a TSX weighs 3268-3356 lbs depending on what tranny you have. The torque output is not good enough to really get the car going. People that buy a TSX don't want to hang out at 7,000 rpms all day to get power. I have always praised Honda for wonderful hp out of these 4 cyl VTEC engines, but they just produce no torque. In the lux market, you need a more balanced 4 cyl engine, like Audi has in the A4. Yes, I know, it's boosted, but, you can't blame Audi for not taking advantage of the technology available today.

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