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Re: Diesel [rv65] by nj2pa2nc
Oct 24, 2008 (2:34 am)
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Replying to: rv65 (Oct 23, 2008 9:12 pm)

I totally agree. As a previous owner of diesel vehicles I would prefer manual transmission.
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Re: Diesel [rv65] by drtravel
Oct 24, 2008 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: rv65 (Oct 23, 2008 9:12 pm)

Rumor: TSX diesel delayed indefinitely; V6 is coming, though
  
Date: October 23, 2008 22:30
Submitted by: Jeff
Source: Anonymous
Credibility Rating: 6
  
Earlier this year at the 2008 Detroit Auto Show, Honda CEO Takeo Fukui announced that 2009 would see Honda's first clean diesel engine to be sold in the USA. Though it was stated that the diesel engine would appear in an undisclosed Acura model, it was all but common knowledge that the TSX would be the first model to get the diesel engine.
 
Fast forward nearly 10 months, and we've received an anonymous tip asserting that the i-DTEC TSX has been delayed indefinitely (if not cancelled outright). According to the anonymous sources, the 6MT version of the i-DTEC TSX has successfully cleared emissions certification, but the automatic-equipped version has been unable to pass certification. According to these sources, Acura believes that the demand for a TSX diesel would be greatly compromised if it were only offered with a 6-speed manual, so the decision was allegedly made to put the TSX diesel on indefinite hold.
 
That's the bad news. The good news is that a V-6 version is said to be coming soon - it's supposedly being "fast-tracked" to make up for the missing diesel. We're still seeking any details we can uncover on that powertrain.
 
  
"I would say that 90%+ of the buyers would want the auto - but the 10% who want the manual tend to hang out on Edmunds. Noticed the same phenomenon when it comes to BMWs. Acura probably agrees so their is no point in producing a deisel engine for such a small demand"
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Re: Diesel [drtravel] by jpdisarro
Oct 24, 2008 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: drtravel (Oct 24, 2008 8:22 am)

A V6 TSX with SH-AWD for 2010 would be golden. Considering that the TL's increased size and controversial styling could reduce TL sales, I could see an upgraded TSX being Acura's top seller.
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Re: Diesel [jpdisarro] by fedlawman
Oct 24, 2008 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: jpdisarro (Oct 24, 2008 11:29 am)

"A V6 TSX with SH-AWD for 2010 would be golden. Considering that the TL's increased size and controversial styling could reduce TL sales, I could see an upgraded TSX being Acura's top seller."
 
Just what we need, a TSX that weighs 300 lbs more and is $4000 more expensive. I'd save the $4000 and get a Subaru Legacy instead.
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Re: Diesel [drtravel] by biker4
Oct 24, 2008 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Oct 24, 2008 8:22 am)

I just don't see a V6 diesel in a TSX. The bigger diesels were meant for the bigger cars and SUV - not the TSX.
 
This also means that the I4 diesel is also delayed/dead for the USDM Accord.
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Re: Diesel [fedlawman] by jpdisarro
Oct 24, 2008 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Oct 24, 2008 1:16 pm)

A V6 TSX with SH-AWD would be what the new TL should have been. A comparably equipped Legacy GT would only be a few thousand less than a TSX, which is not unreasonable given that Acuras have a nicer interior and slightly better image than Subarus.
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Re: Diesel [jpdisarro] by rv65
Oct 26, 2008 (11:10 pm)
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Replying to: jpdisarro (Oct 24, 2008 6:41 pm)

I don't think it will have SH-AWD. It might have it. I think they will use a 3.5L v6. The J35 has so variations that they can easily set the power level and be good to go. It's already engineered so it's already in their parts bin. The SH-AWD TSX with a v6 would be quite competitive. Maybe the v6 will have 260 to 270 HP.
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Re: Diesel [rv65] by fedlawman
Oct 27, 2008 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: rv65 (Oct 26, 2008 11:10 pm)

"a v6 would be quite competitive. Maybe the v6 will have 260 to 270 HP. "
 
Competitive with the TL maybe.
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Diesel Rumor by milwcheapguy
Nov 11, 2008 (8:45 am)
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Before everyone gets their undies in a bunch about Acura dropping the diesel... the source of the rumor is an anonymous poster in the MotorTrend Forums. Also, technically, it is easier to get an automatic tranny to pass emissions than a manual because of the computer control vs. human factor. And finally, if you do a search on Acura's site, you will see that they still have it on there as coming out in 2009.
 
Honda has invested far too much to fail bringing it to market - and the Euro emission standards for 2011(?) are tougher than California's and Diesels make up 50% of Honda's European sales.
 
So please remember the source or the rumor - an anonymous poster... that would be like me coming onto the boards and saying that Honda will no longer have gasoline engines in cars produced after 2009 and will have an all electric/hydrogen fleet.... Neither rumor has much credibility.
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Re: Diesel Rumor [milwcheapguy] by biker4
Nov 14, 2008 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: milwcheapguy (Nov 11, 2008 8:45 am)

But after the emmission reason rumor came out there was a bit more believable reason - they haven't been able to get the costs of the engine down enough.
 
The intro of the diesel is no small thing - once used, the support must be there for decades to come. If the diesel doesn't work out after a couple of years Honda will be stuck with support costs for years to come - even if they never sell it again.

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