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KIA Rondo Handling, Tires, Suspension

30 messages,  Last post on Nov 17, 2008 at 11:29 AM

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Re: KIA Rhondo Handling, Tires, Suspension [e_net_rider] by e_net_rider
Jan 30, 2008 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: e_net_rider (Jan 20, 2008 7:11 am)

The adventure continues.
After KIA had it to Toyota rack twice and they could not get it in spec, they wanted it run across a third rack to make sure. They asked who I used and I mentioned Rutland, so they sent me there. After a few more hours of baby sitting, they told me some bolts were rounded off and it needed new ones. Was this done at Toyota referral? They passed word to KIA and bolts were ordered, but I get this suspicion. KIA calls that bolts are in. The morning I go to KIA, I check thoroughly and can not find any damaged bolts or nuts. I find at KIA these bolts are the two each side that connect the strut to the steering knuckle. And they tell me it needs to go back to Rutland. They tell me they don't have time, maybe tomorrow because it will take three hours. Say What? They have to unmount struts and open the holes. Now I got the whole picture. They are going to do an unauthorized fix to this new vehicle, the same sort of thing that got Ford into a bunch of lawsuits. This I will not allow. Don't need the trouble of bad accident or sitting in lawyers offices and courts endlessly. True that some struts have an elongated hole for adjustment, but those manufactured that way have a knurled surface at that point to give better bite at metal to metal contact and may use special bolts and nuts that also have knurled surface at points of contact. Certainly not a smooth surface on strut and bolts point of contact.
And such an adjustment only works for camber, not caster. Also the rear does not use struts but a four link suspension with separate coil spring and a shock absorber so I can only guess what butchering they may intend to fix those issues.
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Re: Tires [conwelpic] by caliberchic HOST
Jan 30, 2008 (2:44 pm)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Jan 28, 2008 3:38 pm)

Upgrades have been implemented already and more are to come. Hang tight!
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Re: Tires [caliberchic] by e_net_rider
Jan 30, 2008 (3:01 pm)
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Replying to: caliberchic (Jan 30, 2008 2:44 pm)

Can you be a little more specific?
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Re: KIA Rhondo Handling, Tires, Suspension [e_net_rider] by e_net_rider
Jan 30, 2008 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: e_net_rider (Jan 30, 2008 9:47 am)

I contacted dealer this morning and service denies authorizing butcher attempt at aligning. Then why did they authorize over 3 hours to do 10 minute job of changing 4 bolts plus at most an hour for alignment.
Contacted KIA customer service. Went into detail and asked for escalation of engineering and told they could not do that.
Called main part of dealership and talked to manager. He promised to get back with me before end of day. It is 6:06 PM.
In the meantime, I've been busy on the web and email contacting GA consumer affairs relating to Lemon Law. According to them I meet the criteria and by law they should have been giving me copies of everything to date, even under warranty or free service. I've requested copies. Next will be certified mail requesting such and it looks like I need to make time to fill out form notifying them it is their last chance. If not fixed in 7 days I file for buy back or replacement of vehicle. And very happy to learn GA law takes care of you. Not killed by depreciation and such. Settlement is price paid including taxes, etc. divided by 100K miles to determine my cost per mile. Multiply by miles driven and that is it. That should be about $.20 per mile and hopefully settled before 6K miles.
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Re: Tires [e_net_rider] by caliberchic HOST
Jan 31, 2008 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: e_net_rider (Jan 30, 2008 3:01 pm)

Sorry I can't. Top secret, lol. We just launched a forum redesign and there are a few more things in the works.
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Replacing 225/50/17 Michelins by ramblin
Jun 19, 2008 (6:32 am)
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Went with Falken 215/50/17 Ziex ZE-912's. A little smaller tire, but my odometer reads 2 mph slow anyway. Maybe it will fix this?
 
Consumer reports thought highly of them. Wildly varying reviews elsewhere many due to performance on snow. Tire is classified as a "performance all season" with a V speed rating. Tread wear rating on the 50 series isn't that great - 360. Checking with local shops I was quoted anywhere from $700 - $800 for replacement 225/50/17 tires. I could buy two sets of the Falkens for the quoted price from local shops.
 
The Michelins were down to 5/32" before I took them on a 5000 mile trip. The Michelins would have lasted longer but one got badly worn from a tire that was badly out of alignment. I didn't notice anything in the driveability until I started hearing the tire thumping from the cupping that had occurred. I was rotating tires at 5,000 intervals.
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Re: Tires [caliberchic] by conwelpic
Jun 19, 2008 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: caliberchic (Jan 31, 2008 8:35 am)

when are we going to see the changes you talk about? This forum is so far behind in features compared to others and is certainly not user friendly!
 
We need the ability to have:
- avatars
- inserting the message when you reply to it, making it much easier to follow the conversation
- member profile info available in plain view (in a left column) with each posting, particular the members location and what they drive, as this is all relative to the conversation.
- signature attachments
- ability to be able to do attachment straight from your computer, not through a outside source
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Re: Tires [conwelpic] by bgw
Jun 19, 2008 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Jun 19, 2008 8:28 am)

I strongly second all the points that conwelpic has made.
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Re: Tires [conwelpic] by caliberchic HOST
Jun 19, 2008 (4:39 pm)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Jun 19, 2008 8:28 am)

Some forum upgrades have already taken place, as you seen their was a redesign. It takes time, please be patient.
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Re: Tires [caliberchic] by bgw
Jun 20, 2008 (1:30 am)
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Replying to: caliberchic (Jun 19, 2008 4:39 pm)

Caliberchic, we appreciate any and all changes - thanks!

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