Last post on Feb 02, 2013 at 12:28 PM
You are in the MINI Cooper
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MINI Cooper, Engine, Hatchback
#17 of 21 Re: Serious Engine Repair Needed for '07 Mini [badmini]
Aug 08, 2012 (4:58 pm)
No offense, but you appear to do a lot of "reading between the lines", even when there isn't anything there to be reading.
I never said, nor meant to imply, that your problem isn't a valid one... It may well indeed be one.
But, let's face it... Car forums are a bit like prisons... Both are full of innocent people who never, ever did anything to cause the situation that they now find themselves in...
Just to be clear, I think you have a legitimate issue, and knowing a thing or two about automotive engines, I can't easily see any way you caused the damage to the car.
I think the difference between we two is the approach used. I would have simply outlined my issue and then requested information from others experiencing the same issue, or not, by listing the specific model, year, etc. You did list the year, but no model. I assume from your remarks you have the "S" model. Information like that helps narrow down your searches.
Nor would I use a name with "bad" anything in it. You have already "tainted" the conversation before it has even had a chance to start.
It strikes me that, while you certainly have a manufacturer-related problem, you may also have a dealer-related one as well. In my experience, I have established a good working relationship with the dealership (AND service advisor), which has paid off handsomely in the past. The advisor knows that I take care of the vehicle, so there was never the question of abuse, when it came to repairs.
You don't appear to be getting much, if any, dealer support here, based upon your comments.
As I said earlier, I sincerely hope you get resolution to your problem.
#18 of 21 Re: Serious Engine Repair Needed for '07 Mini [busiris]
Aug 09, 2012 (7:21 am)
Point well taken. I'm trying to not bash Mini/BMW until I can get all the facts. In the week since penning the post, I've found much information.
To your point about a dealer problem. You are right. Unfortunately, I started with the dealer and received no help. Worse yet, the dealer said nothing about the TSB out on the vehicle for the repair and offered no help. I put a few options on the table but was flatly rejected. That's when I turned to the internet for answers.
In this forum and across the net I've since learned the the problem is not an isolated case. Maybe it's a manufacturing defect, maybe it is faulty manufacturing processes, maybe it is a design error.
Wish I had a better way than "Bad Mini" to label my experience, "Love Hate" might be a good description. Fuel pump failure in the first 30 miles of ownership, later repaired under warranty and subsequent part of a recall. Tires peeling off at highway speeds spinning me 390+ degrees. Serious burn injury from tailpipe, no help from the dealer, later recalled and replaced. Melted cowl, faulty water pump, no help from the dealer or Mini/BMW. In all these cases, I was first told by the dealer, "it's an isolated case." Then, after doing internet research, I find they've all be common issues and in some cases, Mini/BMW to their credit, issued recalls.
So, I turn to the 'net at first to find whether this problem is normal, but this time I post the question and immediately I'm referred to the TSB that the dealer was silent on. Now that I've learned this issue is much more prevalent, not an isolated case, not a lemon I want to identify how prevalent it is. I have the time and the resources to give back to my community of Mini/BMW owners. If it's my findings show it's prevalent, I'll commit significant time and resources to sharing with the MINI/BMW community.
I'll take a few more weeks to do the research, gather secondary data and conduct basic primary research. I'll create the blogs, gather the photos, and post the results. Others have already offered to help. And I've got years of net search and keyword experience that might help us get word out, assuming the findings show it to be prevalent. I want to emphasize that last point: To date, I'm uncovering many who've had problems with the MINI Cooper timing chain and tensioner. However, the data is still very sketchy. MINI/BMW has a clamp on the data but I'm starting to get referrals to people who until now, have never said a word. It's amazing how things can mushroom when you get a lot of people talking about it. But even 50 similar repairs does not make the case of a defect. Too many variables to get from result back to cause! We'll have the website/blog setup in another week or two and I'll post here and across the web links to it at that time.
Thanks for your comments. Much appreciated.
#19 of 21 Re: Serious Engine Repair Needed for '07 Mini [badmini]
Aug 09, 2012 (8:49 am)
It never ceases to amaze me how a poor dealer can trash a manufacturer, especially when there is some evidence to support the idea of a widespread issue. "It's the first we have heard about it!" is an all to often heard phrase.
What's it tell you when the customer is more well-versed on a product that the seller? Reminds me of shopping at Best Buy... Lol!
There's a guy on the BMW 3 series section at this very moment experiencing the same lack of dealer "quality" that you seem to be experiencing. It's far too common.
Good luck in your "adventure". It sounds like you may need some....
#20 of 21 Re: Serious Engine Repair Needed for '07 Mini [badmini]
Jan 31, 2013 (9:15 pm)
I have 2006 Mini S Convertable
Harmonic Trans Balancer ....replace
Power Steering hoses leaking ,oil pan gasket leaking,lower control arm bushings and this all needs to be replaced at 50K ,right side engine mount ... Something very fishy !
Class action lawsuit was started against Mini Cooper in 2011 seek and yee shall find .... it's not just a transmission issue it's bigger .
#21 of 21 Engine light on 07 Mini
Feb 02, 2013 (12:28 pm)
The engine light keeps coming on in my mini with about 140k miles on it? The engine has a mind of its own sometimes and switches gears on it's own (revs up) . I was told it might be the 02 sensor. Will replacing that fix the problem? If not, what could be the problem? It also burns oil more in the summer months. I love my mini and would like to keep it and also trying to buy another mini.