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First Look: 2009 BMW X6 xDrive50i

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First Look: 2009 BMW X6 xDrive50i - BMW has never been shy about inventing new vehicle categories out of thin air. (Don't think the X5 is a sport-utility vehicle; it's a sports activity vehicle!) So never mind that a coupe is generally defined as a closed car with two doors, while the X6 has four doors. The X6 has a coupelike fastback roof line, so that will have to be justification enough for calling it a sports activity coupe. (more)


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Re: FX 35 is 30k less [sixfive] by anon3
Jun 27, 2008 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: sixfive (Jun 12, 2008 7:33 am)

There's more to the X6 than just the looks. To quote the August '08 Short Take in Car and Driver on the X6 5.0 Xdrive: "This baby also laps the Nurburgring within a couple seconds of the previous-gen (E46) M3." They also said "... we expect it to hang with a 335i to a mid-13-second quarter mile."
 
The X6 isn't just about looks and styling. Dismissing it as a vehicle that people buy when they just want to be seen in the vehicle and not actually drive the vehicle is an over simplification that appeals to people who don't want to think very much.
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Re: First Look: 2009 BMW X6 xDrive50i [puaro] by muchkus
Jun 28, 2008 (4:07 pm)
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Replying to: puaro (Jun 26, 2008 11:48 am)

Hi, Anjelica! I'm reaaaal. I live in Moscow now. Are you the girl who were the 2-nd captain? You like the X6? I'm buying that one, the 4.4 Twin Turbo, used to call Xdrive50
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Re: First Look: 2009 BMW X6 xDrive50i [muchkus] by puaro
Jun 29, 2008 (2:13 am)
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Replying to: muchkus (Jun 28, 2008 4:07 pm)

Privet!
Ty deystwitelno iz Kazani ili ya oshibyus? Tebya zwali Ruslan i ty gil naprotiw Hudogestwennogo muzeya? U tebya byla tak ge dacha na Kordone. Esli wse eto deystwitelno k tebe podhodit, to ya ochen rada, chto tebya nashla. U nas teper X5 4.4 - dlya znatokow. Ya giwu w Awstrii. Day mne znat, esli ty deystwitelno TY.
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Re: FX 35 is 30k less [anon3] by rjlaero
Jul 01, 2008 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: anon3 (Jun 27, 2008 6:08 pm)

The X6 is a niche vehicle, and it won't appeal to everybody. I doubt BMW is planning on making this a vehicle a volume selling priority.
 
When this vehicle was planned 3 years ago, premium gas wasn't nearly $5 a gallon in the US.
 
Even if you have the money, the X6 will have limited appeal in the future. The people that really want one and think it's cool will keep it viable for the 1st 6 month to a year. But after that, you have to keep customers coming when the "newness" factor wears off on a vehicle. You've gotta turn fringe shoppers into buyers for long term success.
 
People still spend money on things that don't make sense. Land Rover has done quite well with the Sport. A very expensive 65k vehicle that's the size of a Ford Escape on the inside, and guzzles gas at an alarming rate.
 
I'm sure the X6 will thrive for a while, but I wouldn't be surprised if this vehicle doesn't make it 5 or 6 years down the road. Especially if fuel prices are $6-7 gallon in the US 2 years from now.
 
BMW financial posted a 300 million dollar loss this year with high residual leases coming back to bite them. They can't afford to subsidize cars like they did in the past with crazy high residuals to keep payments ridiculously low for US customers.
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X6 was also outgunned in another Mag by sixfive
Jul 03, 2008 (5:07 am)
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by an Infiniti FX that costs $10-$15 grand less and weighs 600-700 #'s less. I'm sure they can stuff a turbo 6 into anything and make it faster than an old m3. I'm sure it drives well for what it is - as I said it's a BMW and it means something.
 
The question is why is bMW doing this? Why does the company who thrives on cutting excess weight and putting nimble machines on the road and that lives by a reputation and impeccible brand image building a tank? It looks cool now but like many bangled cars, will have an accelerated life cycle and look dowdy before long. It makes no sense in todays oil price environment. But it will still sell to folks who know nothing about BMWness and want to show up in a BMW. (note generalization taking place- Of course somewhere a true lover of fine auto's will get suckered)
 
"Dismissing it as a vehicle that people buy when they just want to be seen in the vehicle and not actually drive the vehicle is an over simplification that appeals to people who don't want to think very much. "
 
I dismiss it because it's a pig. I could care less how it drives if it's 800 pounds of extra weight to carry nothing. At least the toaureg/cayenne could off road and hold some stuff to justify it's 5000 pound mass. So while I was lazing my mind into simple concluisions about a car I never will be in the market for nor find having any appeal, I also noticed the fakes in my family loving how big the grill was. While BMW owners are not all like my relatives, I can't see the real enthusiast driver or BMW enthusiast buying a iron pig. But maybe I'm too optimistic.
 
I dismiss the Porcshe v-6 Cayenne as well becasue it's ridiculous to pay 25k more for a car that you can get with a people's car badge with the same motor and underpinnings. At least that family member admits thier mistake and after driving our new Murano, unfortunately they feel awful about their 35 months of remaining 800 dollar payments. I would be bummed too. Our VW was way more comfy and luxurious. I guess my perspective would indicate a preference toward value. My predisposition comes from my profession.
 
I cracked up when my sister in law's 5 series was in her driveway for 3 years and she never tried the nav or the i-drive. Too scary she said. She wanted to get the payment to a huge number so she could tell everyone what it was and we could be impressed. She's perfect for the x drive and her lease is up..I can see where this is going...
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Re: First Look: 2009 BMW X6 xDrive50i [puaro] by lovemyclk
Jul 08, 2008 (7:42 pm)
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Replying to: puaro (Jun 29, 2008 2:13 am)

"Privet!
Ty deystwitelno iz Kazani ili ya oshibyus? Tebya zwali Ruslan i ty gil naprotiw Hudogestwennogo muzeya? U tebya byla tak ge dacha na Kordone. Esli wse eto deystwitelno k tebe podhodit, to ya ochen rada, chto tebya nashla. U nas teper X5 4.4 - dlya znatokow. Ya giwu w Awstrii. Day mne znat, esli ty deystwitelno TY
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#63 of 69
Re: Delay?? [anon3] by bmlexus
Jul 12, 2008 (2:02 pm)
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Replying to: anon3 (May 21, 2008 12:18 pm)

First of all thank you for all the replys.
 
Unfortunately, the test drive did not include a visit to a test track. It felt "quick enough", but as you would expect, you have to push a heavier vehicle harder and run it at higher RPM to get top performance... much more so than in the lighter, smaller 3 or 5 series with the same engine.
 
Did you feel it was quicker than the x5 4.8 v8?
 
Got your v8 delivery yet?
 
What color did you choose?
 
Active steering?
 
I've read many negative posts about bmws and the especially the x5.
 
You are the only 1 who has driven so many bmws with all positive feed backs.
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anon3 by bmlexus
Aug 29, 2008 (9:01 pm)
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To anon3
 
Hey,
 
I am still waiting for your reply of my previous message.
 
Since your the only 1 here whos getting the v8 and already test the v6 would really like to hear your experience.
 
I am assuming you already got your v8 but no feed back yet.
 
I also remember some1 else in the x6 forum buying the x6 but after posting he bought the x6 v6 never replied again...
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by bmlexus
Nov 05, 2008 (4:48 pm)
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I am still waiting for a reply
 
Where is everyone?
 
Have you forgotten to post about your x6 experience (anon3)
 
I've heard there are problems in the inline 6 turbo?
 
Any1 know anything
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Re: [bmlexus] by quattroporte12
Nov 16, 2008 (3:50 pm)
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Replying to: bmlexus (Nov 05, 2008 4:48 pm)

bmlexus ill reply lol
I drove the x6 3.5 a while back just for fun, back when i still had my 04 x5 4.4i (it got totaled, sadly) (sport pkg on the x5, the x6 didnt have the sport pkg). I think that the x6 was MORE than adequete on power (i think it def felt faster than my x5, not as much low end torque but the peppier, sportier of the 2). In terms of handling (didnt want to really push it with the guy right there) the x6 was definatley more light on its feet even without the sport package, but thats also because of the steering im sure (anyone thats ever driven an e53 x5 should know the steering is HEAVY, and i mean heavy. Makes it feel really solid though and it has great feedback). Personally, the x6 is one of my dream cars. Ive loved it since the spy photos, and the drive felt nothing like an suv (my x5 drove GREAT, handled like none other (seriousley, it gripped like crazy, and had practicly no body roll) but it felt like an suv because you had great visibility, where as the x6 was almost like a sports car, i forgot i was in any type of SUV/SAV/SAC vehicle at all).
In terms of engine reliability, my dad has a 335xi coupe, hes had to get the fuel pump replaced once, which is apparently a common problem, but thats about all ive heard. Those engines are great, i have the I6 in my e90 330 and love it, theyve been making it for over 30 years, theres a reason.
If you get an x6 please put up pics and please get the sport package, those wheels are amazing and...its a bmw...sport is the main selling point, you want the car to drive as well as possible

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