First Look: 2009 BMW X6 xDrive50i

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First Look: 2009 BMW X6 xDrive50i - BMW has never been shy about inventing new vehicle categories out of thin air. (Don't think the X5 is a sport-utility vehicle; it's a sports activity vehicle!) So never mind that a coupe is generally defined as a closed car with two doors, while the X6 has four doors. The X6 has a coupelike fastback roof line, so that will have to be justification enough for calling it a sports activity coupe. (more)

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#51 of 69 Re: X6 First impression [johna4] by bmlexus May 16, 2008 (7:57 pm)
Replying to: johna4 (May 07, 2008 7:19 pm) The car looks incredible in person. I love it. Aggressive and bold styling. When the service guy was moving the X6 it had an amazing engine sound. I have 15 months left on my Range Rover Sport lease. I think I will get out of the lease a few months early to get into the X6. I haven't been this excited about a car in a long time I guess that means a RR sport owner is about me to jump into a bmw. Range Rover better bring in their new SUV replacement before they start loosing more customers So will you be getting the inline 6 or the v8
#52 of 69 Re: Delay?? [anon3] by bmlexus May 16, 2008 (8:14 pm)
Replying to: anon3 (Apr 28, 2008 12:58 pm) Recently, I test drove the 3.5. My sales person let me take it out for a few hours one afternoon (instead of the usual 10 minute test drive. Buying 10 BMWs from the same sales person tends to put you at the top of their list.) Hour test drives sound like good. Well buying 10 car from the same dealer and from the same sales guy will definitely put any1 at the top. Have always been a fan of the X5 and I like the X6 even better, Same here or but I have always liked the cayennes as well especially after seeing it up close and in person. The photos make it appear smaller than an X5, but in person it is NOT a small vehicle I had the same feeling when I saw it the first time in silver as well its very unique and looks very much like a future concept car. While I loved the exterior in person, it has a downside. The cargo floor and rear hatch are higher than the X5's, which you would not expect from the photos of the sloped rear roof. The combination of sloped roof and higher cargo floor produce a very small and dark rear window that greatly reduces visibility from the rear-view mirror. The demo vehicles all had light colored interior and I expect that a black interior will create a very dark and cavern-like cabin, so I will steer clear of my usual black leather interior choice Every1 buying the x6 will have to compromise with things like small rear window and visibility thats the price you have to pay when you want the exterior to look different. Handling was excellent for a vehicle of this size and weight and I think it handles noticeably better than the new X5. The published performance numbers for the X6 six cylinder are 0 - 60 in 6.5 seconds, essentially the same as the V-8 4.8i X5. Performance felt very adequate and it was all too easy to hit 90 mph. I will wait to order the turbo V-8, but I could easily live with the X6 3.5. So the handling is much better than the x5 have you ever driven the cayenne which I have heard that handling is better than the x5? When driving did you feel that those figures were correct for the x6 inline 6. 0 to 60 in 6.5? If its so easy to hit 90 mph and you could easily live with the x6 inline 6 then why did you go for the turbo V8? Perhaps you want more speed? Did the dealer give you any reason why the v8 has been delayed? Repeating last year’s victory, the 3.0L straight 6-cylinder twin-turbo engine was once again awarded the prestigious award for 2008. Does this make the inline 6 the better choice? thanks Replies to this message: anon3 (May 21, 2008 12:18 pm) bmlexus (Jul 12, 2008 2:02 pm)
#53 of 69 Re: Delay?? [bmlexus] by anon3 May 21, 2008 (12:18 pm)
Replying to: bmlexus (May 16, 2008 8:14 pm) So the handling is much better than the x5 have you ever driven the cayenne which I have heard that handling is better than the x5? I have test driven the Cayenne. It felt more isolated from the road and the interior felt cramped. I'm also not willing to test the widespread rumors of the Cayenne's un-reliability. I've had 5 X5s and never had any trouble with them, so I'll stick with a known partner. When driving did you feel that those figures were correct for the x6 inline 6. 0 to 60 in 6.5? Unfortunately, the test drive did not include a visit to a test track. It felt "quick enough", but as you would expect, you have to push a heavier vehicle harder and run it at higher RPM to get top performance... much more so than in the lighter, smaller 3 or 5 series with the same engine. If its so easy to hit 90 mph and you could easily live with the x6 inline 6 then why did you go for the turbo V8? Perhaps you want more speed? The turbo six delivers "adequate" performance, but not everyone is satisfied with "adequate". More power will transform this vehicle from good to great. No longer a sheep in wolf's clothing. My other BMW for weekend and track driving is a 2006 M6, and I've found it to be hard to switch to a six cylinder during the week. And I've never liked to feel like I "compromised" by choosing the less expensive and more practical engine. I want to look forward to getting behind the wheel with maximum "fun" factor of driving. Repeating last year’s victory, the 3.0L straight 6-cylinder twin-turbo engine was once again awarded the prestigious award for 2008. Does this make the inline 6 the better choice? "Better" depends on your requirements. The turbo six is less expensive. It gets better gas mileage. It's cheaper to insure. You don't have to wait as long for it. It has been in production longer and has had no significant reliability problems while the Turbo 8 is still unknown. So the turbo 6 is definitely a very smart choice. But none of us has driven the turbo 8 in production mode, so who can say which is the better choice? Right now, we don't have a choice of engines in the X6. Personally, I'm more interested in seeing what BMW does with the hybrid X6. Replies to this message: bmlexus (Jul 12, 2008 2:02 pm)
#54 of 69 Re: Delay?? [cntrad] by anon3 May 28, 2008 (8:53 am)
Replying to: cntrad (Apr 16, 2008 8:56 am) Is it true that the V8 version release has been delayed several months??? Are they having problems with this model already? I'm half interested in the V8 model, but I'm beginning to think this would be a bad move. The Turbo 8 will be released with the 2009 model year X6 vehicles. This was planned. The engine is not delayed because it is "having problems" according to people I know at the BMW center in Spartanburg. It is true that the Turbo 8 will be a new engine and it will appear in the X6 and the new 7 series first, as has been reported many times over the past few months.
#55 of 69 FX 35 is 30k less by sixfive Jun 12, 2008 (7:33 am)
And a better car according to Motor and Truck Trend. Not sure i'd want to be seen in a BMW that bad. I like the idea of this truck after owning a 5000 pound well handling german SUV. and I like BMW's execution but - really - this is for the same people who buy a porchse cayenne for not other reason than to be seen and have no idea what BMW or Porcsche puts into thier cars. My family includes these types - they buy cars that cost more and offer relatively less. Porsche and BMW love my family. i can't understand them Replies to this message: anon3 (Jun 27, 2008 6:08 pm) rjlaero (Jul 01, 2008 8:26 am)
#56 of 69 Re: First Look: 2009 BMW X6 xDrive50i [muchkus] by puaro Jun 26, 2008 (11:48 am)
Replying to: muchkus (Feb 22, 2008 8:42 am) Hi, I am Anjelica.Where do you come from in Russia? I have known a man named "muchkus". Please let me know.Bye Replies to this message: muchkus (Jun 28, 2008 4:07 pm) puaro (Jun 29, 2008 2:13 am) lovemyclk (Jul 08, 2008 7:42 pm)
#57 of 69 Re: FX 35 is 30k less [sixfive] by anon3 Jun 27, 2008 (6:08 pm)
Replying to: sixfive (Jun 12, 2008 7:33 am) There's more to the X6 than just the looks. To quote the August '08 Short Take in Car and Driver on the X6 5.0 Xdrive: "This baby also laps the Nurburgring within a couple seconds of the previous-gen (E46) M3." They also said "... we expect it to hang with a 335i to a mid-13-second quarter mile." The X6 isn't just about looks and styling. Dismissing it as a vehicle that people buy when they just want to be seen in the vehicle and not actually drive the vehicle is an over simplification that appeals to people who don't want to think very much. Replies to this message: rjlaero (Jul 01, 2008 8:26 am)
#58 of 69 Re: First Look: 2009 BMW X6 xDrive50i [puaro] by muchkus Jun 28, 2008 (4:07 pm)
Replying to: puaro (Jun 26, 2008 11:48 am) Hi, Anjelica! I'm reaaaal. I live in Moscow now. Are you the girl who were the 2-nd captain? You like the X6? I'm buying that one, the 4.4 Twin Turbo, used to call Xdrive50 Replies to this message: puaro (Jun 29, 2008 2:13 am) lovemyclk (Jul 08, 2008 7:42 pm)
#59 of 69 Re: First Look: 2009 BMW X6 xDrive50i [muchkus] by puaro Jun 29, 2008 (2:13 am)
Replying to: muchkus (Jun 28, 2008 4:07 pm) Privet! Ty deystwitelno iz Kazani ili ya oshibyus? Tebya zwali Ruslan i ty gil naprotiw Hudogestwennogo muzeya? U tebya byla tak ge dacha na Kordone. Esli wse eto deystwitelno k tebe podhodit, to ya ochen rada, chto tebya nashla. U nas teper X5 4.4 - dlya znatokow. Ya giwu w Awstrii. Day mne znat, esli ty deystwitelno TY. Replies to this message: lovemyclk (Jul 08, 2008 7:42 pm)
#60 of 69 Re: FX 35 is 30k less [anon3] by rjlaero Jul 01, 2008 (8:26 am)
Replying to: anon3 (Jun 27, 2008 6:08 pm) The X6 is a niche vehicle, and it won't appeal to everybody. I doubt BMW is planning on making this a vehicle a volume selling priority. When this vehicle was planned 3 years ago, premium gas wasn't nearly $5 a gallon in the US. Even if you have the money, the X6 will have limited appeal in the future. The people that really want one and think it's cool will keep it viable for the 1st 6 month to a year. But after that, you have to keep customers coming when the "newness" factor wears off on a vehicle. You've gotta turn fringe shoppers into buyers for long term success. People still spend money on things that don't make sense. Land Rover has done quite well with the Sport. A very expensive 65k vehicle that's the size of a Ford Escape on the inside, and guzzles gas at an alarming rate. I'm sure the X6 will thrive for a while, but I wouldn't be surprised if this vehicle doesn't make it 5 or 6 years down the road. Especially if fuel prices are $6-7 gallon in the US 2 years from now. BMW financial posted a 300 million dollar loss this year with high residual leases coming back to bite them. They can't afford to subsidize cars like they did in the past with crazy high residuals to keep payments ridiculously low for US customers.