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Nissan Xterra clutch problem

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Re: Yay clutch is going out at 27k :-( [sublimesnfu] by sublimesnfu
Jun 30, 2009 (4:52 pm)
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Replying to: sublimesnfu (Jun 29, 2009 8:35 pm)

Well, went in today and was assurred both the clutch and flywheel will be replaced under warranty after the dealer spoke with the Nissan Tech support line. If anyone else experiences this problem drop me a line at nissanalaskagmail.com I will be happy to try and help you get covered under warranty.
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Re: Yay clutch is going out at 27k :-( [sublimesnfu] by asa
Jun 30, 2009 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: sublimesnfu (Jun 30, 2009 4:52 pm)

I wonder if the actual problem might be in the master cylinder or it's adjustment and slipping is occurring even when the pedal is not depressed. Just food for thought. It seems weird that some of us have had trouble and others not. I hope mine lasts. I'm like you and get long life from clutches -- 240,000 Miles on my Toyota and 180,000 on my Mitsu (blame my wife on the Mitsu).
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Re: Yay clutch is going out at 27k :-( [asa] by gfg
Jul 01, 2009 (5:36 am)
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Replying to: asa (Jun 30, 2009 5:00 pm)

Mine went out at 20k. First thing I checked was the slave cylinder, and it was all the way back when the pedal was out indicating the pressure plate had full force on the disc. When the pedal was fully depressed the throwout bearing arm had full travel. The symptom was that the clutch didn't grab until the pedal was within a inch of all the way out (the disc was totally worn and therefore thin). With the clutch not grabbing until the pedal was almost all the way out, it slipped more, frying the flywheel and pressure plate.
You mention some do not have this premature clutch failure. Do you know of a 2006 or later Xterra (with the 6-speed Z-based trans) clutch lasting more miles than the 20-30k typical? All my other car and truck clutches typically last 150k plus, but none are Nissans. The X is also rated for 6k lb towing, and I can imagine the clutch would fail even earlier if used for towing per the factory rating.
Bottom line is it appears to me that Nissan used a passenger car clutch design (because of the Z transmission they adapted to the X) in a much heavier truck, and didn't bother to do reliability testing in the X. Maybe this is the Renault ownership influence.
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Re: Yay clutch is going out at 27k :-( [sublimesnfu] by rico52
Jul 02, 2009 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: sublimesnfu (Jun 30, 2009 4:52 pm)

Woohoo! Congratulations on the warranty replacement. By the way, somewhrere in this thread, someone mentioned their engine over-reving. Mine would do the same. I wonder if this is a common occurance. I finally surmised that the Xterra's must be "drive by wire" meaning that there is a throttle position sensor rather than a direct linkage to the fuel management system. Every other manual trans I've ever driven, the press of the clutch and the release of the gas peddle were simultaneous. when I drive the Xterra this way, the engine RPM does not back off immediately like a direck linkage to a carbureator or fuel injection, but remains high for a few seconds. Right after my clutch replacement, i noticed the same rattle and vibe, just not as bad. Now when I shift, I release the gas peddle, pause momentarily, the clutch and shift and the noise/vibe does not occur. Wouldn't releasing the clutch while the engine was still at a high rev, cause it to drag and therefore wear prematurely? Just a thought.
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Re: Yay clutch is going out at 27k :-( [rico52] by asa
Jul 03, 2009 (3:50 am)
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Replying to: rico52 (Jul 02, 2009 10:44 am)

Great point on the engine revs hanging for a moment after the clutch is depressed and fooot is lifted from the gas pedal. Some people have said that it's because of the heavy rotational mass of the VQ-40's flywheel and others have said that it's to reduce emissions. I too have learned to hesitate a moment to let the RPM's die before upshifting. Regardless, it sure does appear that Nissan needs to engineer a solution to the clutch surface and flywheel. I find myself babying mine, which I shouldn't have to do.
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Re: Yay clutch is going out at 27k :-( [gfg] by asa
Jul 03, 2009 (4:04 am)
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Replying to: gfg (Jul 01, 2009 5:36 am)

That's excellent that you checked the clutch take up, slave and thowout action. Your theory on slippage seems spot on to me and some photos I've seen on another website show a great deal of heat discoloration on the flywheel.
 
I'll have to get a sense of take up on my truck. I've never thought much about it until now.
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Re: Yay clutch is going out at 27k :-( [asa] by sublimesnfu
Jul 03, 2009 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: asa (Jul 03, 2009 4:04 am)

How would I check the clutch uptake. I have to say that the clutch engagement is much much tighter now with the new clutch, could be because it is a fresh clutch. Before it seemed like you could ease into the clutch nice and smooth, now you seem to have about an inch of pedal travel between no engagement and the clutch grabbing.
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Xterra Clutch by Just_Peachy
Aug 21, 2009 (11:50 am)
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It would appear that some clutches for the Xterras are getting warranty replacements, yet many of us are expected to pick up the cost. I am documenting these premature failures. I want to here your accounts if they paid out or not. my clutch went a 30,000 km mostly Canadian highway. I am English and have driven manual transmission for 30yrs since the age of 12. How bad is my driving suddenly? xterraclutchhotmail.com.
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2007 Xterra Off Road clutch failure by kwheelz
Aug 25, 2009 (6:28 am)
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Manual transmission Xterra Off Road
<25,000 easy driving, no off road, but a few dirt roads Clutch went out over the weekend, progressing from subtle, slight clutch slipping to complete failure in two days, only highway driving, but weekend stop and go traffic sped up the process. Question for the experts: When the clutch completely failed, the car shutdown, no power brakes or power steering? Next day at local dealership, car started right up? Left me in a very dangerous highway situation. Service said they had not heard of this issue before, would need to check to see if there was an obvious reason for failure, and then take up with Nissan to fix under warranty. What can I expect with a new clutch, another 25K of use? No more Nissan for me. Thank you to all that posted before me so that I know this is not an isolated incident.
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Re: 2007 Xterra Off Road clutch failure [kwheelz] by Just_Peachy
Aug 26, 2009 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: kwheelz (Aug 25, 2009 6:28 am)

My dealer said this>>
"Nissan Canada has no reason to believe there exists an inherent clutch problem with the Xterra. There has not been an unusual number of warranty claims attempted or otherwise and also, and more importantly, there has not been an unusual number of parts sales for repairs that customers are paying for."
 
2010 will involve 2 new vehicles in my household. neither one will be a Nissan.

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