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#20 of 81 Re: 2005 Ford Escape - Wheel bearings or Other? [fnamowicz]
by steve_ HOST
Jul 26, 2010 (7:36 pm)
The experts at TireRack don't agree with you.
I don't enjoy rotating them either, and I've heard the urban legend claim (and would like to believe it since I don't enjoy car maintenance), but my personal experience on my minivan is that the fronts would wear out a lot faster than the rears if I didn't rotate them. And I prefer to buy tires in sets instead of pairs.
Tread wear on an Escape would likely be more even than my FWD minivan, but check out the link.
#21 of 81 Re: 2005 Ford Escape - Wheel bearings or Other? [fnamowicz]
by davicho
Jul 27, 2010 (8:30 am)
Here is my $0.02 on the rotation topic.
If you have a rear-wheel drive vehicle, rotation may not make a big difference in extending tire life. Since the rear wheels have the traction, the rear tires will take their share of wear from providing traction to move the vehicle forward and back. The front wheels provide the traction to change direction of the vehicle, hence, the front tires will take their share of wear from providing the traction needed to change direction of the vehicle.
However...
If you have a front-wheel drive vehicle (as in our Escapes, even in 4WD trim the system is front-wheel drive biased) rotation of tires may indeed extend the life of your tires. Since the front wheels are providing both duties of providing traction to move the vehicle forward and back, as well as providing traction to change direction of the vehicle as well. It makes sense why front tires wearout a lot faster then rear tires. This is why it is important to rotate your tires every 5000 miles on a front-wheel drive car in order to obtain the longest possible tread life out of them. The only con of doing this, is that in some occasions it may generate tire noise since the tires are wearing out differently in the new location...but only until the tire aclimates to the new location.
#22 of 81 2009 Ford Escape Noises
by nationwideski
Sep 16, 2010 (2:33 pm)
My 2009 Ford Escape makes a noises like my window is open on my passenger side when traveling at 50 or 55 and above and also sounds like someone is gurgling from the passenger side when its raining, Any Help With This???
#23 of 81 Ford Escape 2010 hoot or chirp noise
by jan1213
Sep 22, 2010 (6:29 pm)
I purchased a 2010 Ford Escape and have a "hoot" noise from a stopped take-off. They have replaced the snake chain and a complete new transmission. The repaired transmission and the new transmission have made the same noise. Ford says that it's a normal noise for the 2010 Ford Escapes. What's the best recourse for this problem?
#24 of 81 2010 Ford Escape "hoot" or chirp noise
by maineiac4850
Sep 23, 2010 (6:01 am)
My Ford Escape does the same thing. Complained to the dealership but they said because all 2010 Ford Escapes made that noise, there was nothing they could do. Of course, I don't agree with that philosophy, but I guess it saves Ford a lot of money to ignore the problem. This will be the last time I buy a Ford product.
#25 of 81 Re: 2010 Ford Escape "hoot" or chirp noise [maineiac4850]
by jan1213
Sep 24, 2010 (7:38 am)
I will be writing a letter to the CEO of Ford within the next week or two. The salesperson that sold me the vehicle and I have also talked. He has given me the name of a lawyer to contact for a possible class action suit against Ford. Sounds like a lot of work on my part, but I'm totally dissatisfied that Ford would accept this inferior quality in their products! Yes, I agree - I will never buy another Ford product after this experience.
#27 of 81 2010 Ford Escape "Hoot"
by 2hills
Sep 26, 2010 (4:39 pm)
I tried out a 2009 Escape that had a hoot and told the dealer I wasn't interested in a vehicle that had a noise coming from what I thought was the rear end of the vehicle. I was told that yes Ford knew of the problem and had a "tweak" to fix the problem. I still sid no thanks and was assured if I waited for the 2010 the problem has been fixed. Gues what? I have the same noise as the 09. The dealer just had the car in and they pulled out the transmission and replaced a chain in the tranny, still hoots. I took the car back to the dealer and they said that Ford has no idea how to fix the problem, if the tsb didnt do the job too bad. Now I am experiencing trouble with the steering. Now they are replacing the steering rack. I traded a 2001 Escape in for this 2010, big mistake. My 2001 hatch didnt rattle until I had about 60,000 miles on it. The 2010 is rattling now at about 10,000 miles. The finish isn't as nice as my 01 XLT and the attitude of Ford techs is tough luck.
#28 of 81 Re: 2010 Ford Escape "Hoot" [2hills]
by jan1213
Sep 27, 2010 (10:36 am)
Thanks for your reply - it only verifies what I now know about 2010 Ford Escapes. My letter is written to the CEO, I'm meeting with the dealership general manager this afternoon to get their support and will mail the letter within the week. I'm amazed that Ford would sell a product with a noise defect and not disclose that to their consumers/customers.
#29 of 81 Escape Hoot
by roc13
Sep 28, 2010 (1:46 pm)
Hello,
I found this forum when searching for info on the "Hoot" noise. I live in Ontario Canada and purchased an Escape in March, before transferring to Saskatchewan for work. I bought something new as I wanted something dependable and did not want to worry about having to bring the vehicle in for fixing.
I have now brought the vehicle in twice and it is in now having the chain replaced to eliminate the hoot noise. The dealer here in Saskatoon informed me that the fix does not always work and that after having the fix done, Ford will not pursue the problem any further. I contacted the dealer in Ontario and he advised me to have the fix done. He said that the dealers try to dissuade you from having the fix done as it is very expensive and time consuming, but that it should in fact rectify the problem. After reading the posts here I am not so confident that it will. I will post back in a day or two when I get the vehicle back.
The hoot bulletin was issued to the dealers on Dec 7th of 2009. I bought my vehicle in March 2010 and was not made aware of the problem. The dealer said that they would not tell anyone as not every salesman would know about the problem. I asked .. . "If I came in today and wanted to buy an Escape, would they tell me about the noise?" Their reply "Like I said, the salesman don't necessarily know about the problem." That response kinda blew my mind. As the noise is not safety related, they seem to think it does not matter.
I also brought the vehicle in for the following:
- driver's side window closes "hard" and squeaks over bumps. They ordered a new molding, but now cannot find it
- the fabric moonroof panel is lifting on the rear passenger corner
- the molding on the driver's side of the windshield is warped and very loose. After I touched it and moved it, the remote start cable fell from the roof and was just hanging when I brought it in. It was a very poor installation job at the factory
- i drove 15 km down a gravel road. Did not drive hard and there were no bumps. The hatchback will not stop squeaking now.
- having the tires rotated, currently 9000 km on the vehicle
- also brought in for the tranny recall to have it reset
I take care of my vehicles and I am very disgusted in the service and quality of the vehicle. It looked like the remote start installation was rushed. I never the noticed the warped molding as I was never in the passanger seat before. I had a few days to buy a vehicle before I moved and was rushed and did not notice some of the defects.
I would be interested in learning how others are dealing with the hoot problem and would like to offer any assistance that I may be able to provide. Whether it be details or a letter. I bought the vehicle in Ontario Canada which happens to be the only province without a "lemon law."