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#27 of 34 Update on the Volt by GM [galvang] by galvang May 14, 2008 (10:04 pm)
Replying to: galvang (Apr 20, 2008 7:37 pm) Looks like GM is doing well with their proto trails with Volt.   http://www.autoobserver.com/2008/05/chevy_volt_traveling_public_ro.html#more Replies to this message: blace (Jun 02, 2008 4:03 pm) gagrice (Jun 02, 2008 5:08 pm) galvang (Jun 02, 2008 8:06 pm)
#28 of 34 Re: Update on the Volt by GM [galvang] by blace Jun 02, 2008 (4:03 pm)
Replying to: galvang (May 14, 2008 10:04 pm) I hope GM can get it together fast enough to make a difference. Having searched the web for ANY car that is electric/gas and has style landed me onto the Volt, only to find out it won't even be available for 2+ years. I'd buy it now, if it came in at less than 30 thou. As far as the batteries are concerned - have you tried sending a bullet through a gas tank? I think if the Volt had an aluminum undercarriage (rust protection, longevity & recyclable), extensive use of plastic/fiberglas or equivalent, like a vet for weight reduction & rust prevention, fiberoptics and electronics that blow you away, I couldn't imagine them keeping up with demand. It's not necessarily all about horsepower or speed anymore, but it is about image! It's a cool looking car that could sit in the driveway an get stares. All electric around town means quiet...stealthy... and passing by all the gas stations means pride! Can't we start a new revolution away from the 900 Hp, 0-60 in 5 sec., 1/4 mile in ?? ?? , blow your doors off, drunken, gas station to gas station stupidity??? Heaven forbid we could be smart, green, and drink something other than beer... I'd say to GM: take advice from the Bank of Scotland commercial - quit talking and start building - the batteries are not that hard to swap out if something better pops up before the cars go to market. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jun 02, 2008 5:08 pm) galvang (Jun 02, 2008 8:06 pm)
#29 of 34 Re: Update on the Volt by GM [blace] by gagrice Jun 02, 2008 (5:08 pm)
Replying to: blace (Jun 02, 2008 4:03 pm) I would expect closer to $50 thou or a big lease on the batteries. Have you read the above article. There are still challenges to making the car safe to park in you garage.   the biggest challenge is to manage the thermal dynamics of the batteries so that the batteries are the same temperature.   Welcome to the Forum
#30 of 34 Re: Update on the Volt by GM [blace] by galvang Jun 02, 2008 (8:06 pm)
Replying to: blace (Jun 02, 2008 4:03 pm) I hope GM can get it together fast enough to make a difference.   This things take a little bit of time. Like the article stated they do have challenges (gagrice) but those challenges can be over come. GM can always accelerate their plans to introduce the vehicle into the market but that will take extra money and manpower in which GM cannot afford. "Uncle sam help me please."   Can't we start a new revolution away from the 900 Hp, 0-60 in 5 sec., 1/4 mile in ?? ?? , blow your doors off, drunken, gas station to gas station stupidity???   If gas and oil keep going up then I believe there will be a dramatic philosophical change to the auto consumer. Where MPG will be more of a priority than HP when purchasing a car. It's started to happen. Come to think about it, I still pick up "Road and Track" and "Motor Trend" and these magazines are so behind in the times that they still write about these power hog of a vehicles.
#31 of 34 Re: Lithium Ion Battery Packs For Electric Vehicles [gagrice] by stevedebi Jun 03, 2008 (10:56 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Apr 17, 2008 10:15 pm) "Most of the failures are a single cell in laptop batteries. "   The fewest cells of which I am aware are 6; most laptop LiIon batteries have 9 cells. Replies to this message: galvang (Jun 04, 2008 4:04 pm)
#32 of 34 Re: Lithium Ion Battery Packs For Electric Vehicles [stevedebi] by galvang Jun 04, 2008 (4:04 pm)
Replying to: stevedebi (Jun 03, 2008 10:56 pm) If one of theose Laptop Lithium Ion battery goes it will cause a chain reaction and other batteries may over heat and fail too.
#33 of 34 Re: Electric news [pf_flyer] by nanookie Oct 05, 2008 (2:43 am)
Replying to: pf_flyer (Jan 22, 2008 5:52 am) There are newer technology lithium ion batteries using nano-particle suspensions, composite cathode materials, and various physical and chemical modifications that overcome all of these limitations.        Various manufacturers have invented various alternative configurations, all of which have greatly increased cycle life, charge and discharge rate, and safety. Thermal run-away, copper plating, lithium plating at low temperature, and exposed graphite-oxygen-electrolyte issues have all been resolved in these newer designs.         Production is already ramping up with some of these new technologies but there are many more in the pipeline, so I expect within a few years, the lithium batteries won't resemble what we see today at all, however, even now there are companies producing lithium batteries with much longer cycle life, operating parameters, and without the thermal-runaway or fire hazards of older technologies.
#34 of 34 Battery news by pf_flyer HOST Nov 12, 2008 (5:47 pm)
From laptops to cars, advanced batteries have become a major factor in innovation. And if Panasonic Corp.'s possible takeover of Sanyo Electric Co. goes through, the merged company could become a dominant force in the fast-growing business.   http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122589242452601431.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

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