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Re: Lincoln MKT [gregg_vw] by akirby
Jan 18, 2008 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 18, 2008 11:46 am)

Mercury simply isn't a priority right now - too many things to fix at Ford and Lincoln and only so much time and money to do it with.
 
I honestly don't think they've made a decision either way, and probably won't for another couple of years.
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Re: Lincoln MKT [akirby] by jeyhoe
Jan 18, 2008 (7:20 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 18, 2008 1:53 pm)

The decision will be made for them if they continue to neglect the brand.
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Back to the MKT by displacedtexan
Jan 25, 2008 (7:14 am)
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But first, someone made some crack about Lincoln drivers, iPods, and SYNC. Well, I drive a Lincoln. I also carry an MP3 and a cell phone. The absence of SYNC in a Lincoln would kill the sale for me in this day and age.
 
As for the MKT, the bustle back is kind of interesting and daring, as is the grille. The front end is no more cow catcher than Caddy's CTS. I hope Lincoln doesn't dumb down the exterior too much. No doubt they'll be criticized for taking a chance with controversial styling, but they'd likely be criticized for taking the safe route, too, so go ahead, take that chance!
 
What I wonder is, does Lincoln really need both the MKT and the MKX? What are their target markets for these? I suppose the MKT might offer the third row the MKX lacks, and the MKX might be of a more compact size than the MKT. It'll be interesting to compare the two and see what shakes out.
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Re: Back to the MKT [displacedtexan] by akirby
Jan 25, 2008 (7:37 am)
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Replying to: displacedtexan (Jan 25, 2008 7:14 am)

The MKT is a lot bigger than the MKX and it appears they're going for 2 markets: the traditional 6/7 passenger luxury crossover and a luxury 4/5 seater possibly for use as a livery vehicle. In some respects that makes more sense to have the extra cargo space for luggage as opposed to a large sedan with only a trunk.
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MKT Job 1 "spring" 2009 by gregg_vw
Mar 17, 2008 (11:12 am)
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I was already sure that Lincoln would not have the MKT ready this summer as some have suggested. Now, reports say spring of 2009. That likely means June, as June is the actual sell date for the MKS, which was projected for spring 2008.
 
In any event, I see no evidence yet that Lincoln has sped up the release of new models. A tepid re-do of the MKZ and some tweaks to the Edge, er, I mean MKX is not going to cut it in this market (Lincoln sales were down nearly 15% last month). Right now, Lincoln needs something more than one new model every year or so. It needs a model or two that no one can characterize as duller than day old douche water.
 
Knowing all along that Lincoln was getting a model based on the Flex apparently did little to overcome the corporate inertia. By delaying it until 2009, I hope they are able to offer it with some innovation in the drivetrain. The way things are going, gas could be $5 a gallon by then. Lincoln has to start leapfrogging the competition at some point soon, or it won't be just curtains for Mercury.
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Re: MKT Job 1 "spring" 2009 [gregg_vw] by akirby
Mar 17, 2008 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Mar 17, 2008 11:12 am)

Ford said all along that the Lincoln version of the Flex would be about a year after the Flex. Or at least that's what I remember.
 
I agree that Lincoln needs to move faster, but to be fair I don't think Lincoln got the green light for more products and more investment until sometime last year after Mulally took over. So I don't expect anything earth shattering from Lincoln for another 2 years.
 
The MKZ probably won't get all new sheetmetal until the next gen platform arrives combining the CD3 and EUCD platforms. MKX should also be at least 2 years away from unique sheetmetal. Not sure if the Navigator should even be a priority with the price of gas.
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Re: MKT Job 1 "spring" 2009 [gregg_vw] by dds010
Mar 17, 2008 (2:55 pm)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Mar 17, 2008 11:12 am)

I totally agree with you, everything that Lincoln plans on doing is always produced too late. The MKS was unveiled way back in November and it still hasn't came out yet the little buzz it gained will be gone by the time it comes out, the MKT is more than likely 2 years away ( lets see if the launch it initially with the correct engine), and can ford please introduce the 6.2 in the Navigator by years end it seems like its takes ford 4 years to make a decision and come through with it and by that time the competition has something more ahead of their offerings still
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Re: MKT Job 1 "spring" 2009 [akirby] by gregg_vw
Mar 17, 2008 (4:57 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Mar 17, 2008 12:44 pm)

Caught you, Allen. There's an entry from you on this MKT thread (#22) where you suggested the MKT would be out this year (designed along with the Flex, due at about the same time or a bit later). So what's the deal now with "Ford said all along..."?
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Re: MKT Job 1 "spring" 2009 [gregg_vw] by akirby
Mar 18, 2008 (5:12 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Mar 17, 2008 4:57 pm)

Caught you, Allen. There's an entry from you on this MKT thread (#22) where you suggested the MKT would be out this year (designed along with the Flex, due at about the same time or a bit later). So what's the deal now with "Ford said all along..."?
 
Not so fast, Gregg. What I said back in January was that the MKT would be out NEXT summer or fall, as opposed to THIS COMING summer or fall. All of the info I had ever heard was that the Flex would be out summer 2008 with the Lincoln version about a year behind.
 
I was replying to Joe's comparison to the MKS which comes out 3 (or is it 4) years after the 500 debuted on the same platform.
 
I'll be more clear next time, though.
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Re: MKT Job 1 "spring" 2009 [akirby] by gregg_vw
Mar 18, 2008 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Mar 18, 2008 5:12 am)

Ok. I get what you meant. To me, next summer means the next summer...the next one, the one coming up. "This summer" means to me, the one we are in. But definitions are variable and so you are off the hook! Still doesn't explain why they needed another year, even though Lincoln was slated to get a Flex job all along. Nothing to be done about it though. This is how Ford operates, and is one of the reasons they continue to lose market share.
 
I do think the MKT will get a lot more press and attention than the MKX ever did, because it is much more creative and unique. However, with all the manufacturers out there churning out new models like buckshot, some of its thunder will likely be stolen by summer of 2009. Here's hoping it works out. A three row CUV with suggestions of a touring sedan in its lines could really take off.

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