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Re: SOLUTION FOUND???? [dezral] by mcase2
Jul 30, 2008 (5:27 pm)
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Replying to: dezral (Jul 18, 2008 1:19 pm)

Here is the lemon law for Oklahoma! This is a paste from the state's lemon law website
 
What exactly is a lemon law? In the dictionary a lemon law is explained as a law obligating manufactures to repair, replace, or refund the price of motor vehicles that prove to be defective. The lemon law is designed to protect consumers that purchase new vehicles. All fifty states in the United States have lemon laws, but each state has different principles and procedures. But how do you know what defects qualify your vehicle, and how do you prove it? Basically, if your car has been repaired for the same defect four or more times and the problem is still occurring, you have a lemon. Of course, the defect must be something significant which substantially hinders the vehicle’s use, value or safety.
 
Oklahoma Lemon Laws cover "Any motor driven vehicle required to be registered, excluding vehicles above 10,000 pounds GVW and the living facilities of motor homes."
 
Manufacturers are entitled to 4 repair attempts or 45 days out of service before it qualifies under Oklahoma Law as a Lemon.
 
Cars are covered under the Oklahoma Lemon Law for Warranty period or 1 year.
 
P.S.
I hope this helps. Your Camry's problems certainly hinder use and value. Quite arguably if the acceleration is unresponsive its also a safety issue.
 
I also hope that you did not submit to to "legally binding" arbitration. I would recommend that you never ever do that. Toyota uses arbitration to dodge lemon laws whenever they can. If you can invoke statute law and get rid of a bad car, why on Earth would you risk being bound by the compromises and ridiculous settlements that can occur in arbitration? Invoke your rights and get rid get rid of this Camry lemon before its too late.
 
     
 
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Re: Toyota released a fix for Vibration/shift problem [silentcut] by wwest
Jul 31, 2008 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: silentcut (Jul 22, 2008 12:16 pm)

"The engine slows down drastically without retaining the speed for at least a few seconds after releasing the gas pedal, forcing the driver to press the gas pedal in order to keep the momentum."
 
Sounds to me as if you are a "VICTIM" of Toyota's latest effort to FIX the 1-2 second transaxle downshift delay/hesitation.
 
Under the new FIX you are supposed to learn how to manage the release of the gas pedal in order to avoid an upshift followed quickly by a downshift. The NCF, New Car Feature, indicates that if you lift the gas pedal slowly the engine/transaxle ECU will "assume" that your intent is to enter "cruise" mode and thereby it will upshift. On the other hand a "quick" release/lift of the gas pedal would more likely mean you wish to slow the car using engine compression braking and the engine/transaxle ECU will tend to keep the transaxle in the current lower gear ratio.
 
It sounds as if you may be confusing the engine/transaxle ECU by lifting the gas pedal a bit too quickly when you actual intent is to enter cruise mode.
 
I would assume that what you need to do is give the ECU time to "learn", for you specifically, ALONE, the difference between a quick lift of the gas pedal and a slow one. That would probably mean restricting the car to only you driving. Or in the alternative you can "learn" how better to modulate the gas pedal in order to more accurately "tell" the ECU your future, IMMEDIATE future intent.
 
But be careful of what you ask, that new TSB may mean going back to the old way, incurring the 1-2 second downshift delay/hesitation in certain specific situations.
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Re: SOLUTION FOUND???? [mcase2] by dezral
Jul 31, 2008 (5:45 pm)
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Replying to: mcase2 (Jul 30, 2008 5:27 pm)

mcase2: Thank you so much for your words of wisdom...where were you at before my arbitration date?!?! I could have used you to help me more. I did read the OK lemon law, and did notice that it said 4 repairs, and I only had 3. So, from there I knew I was doomed. I took the chance anyways and lost. I do agree with you that it is a safety issue, Toyota argued with me and said it wasn't. I am a woman so don't know much about cars except that a vibration like that isn't "NORMAL" like they said it was, I mean they said "NORMAL CHARACTERISTIC" whatever, they just don't want to admit they made a mistake. Since I did not win my case, I took it to the dealer (since that was my only option) and had the new TSB done that they offered me 1 week before my arbitration date and that came out right after I had already filed arbitration. So far so good, no vibration yet that I have noticed anyway. I haven't had many chances to try to make it do it. They said in my "decision letter" that I could either accept the arbitrators decision or reject it. I rejected it just in case it acts up again after this new TSB, I will still have until November to persue further action, if needed. How do I know if I submitted to a legally binding arbitration?? One more trip to the dealership for a repair on this car for a vibration and it will be a "lemon". I have already had to take it in for a defective CD player and my passenger side seatbelt thingy on the door sounds like it has a spring loose...at least nothing else big. Thanks again! ~~Dezra
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Re: Toyota released a fix for Vibration/shift problem [wwest] by silentcut
Aug 01, 2008 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Jul 31, 2008 7:51 am)

Hi wwest,
Thank you for your reply. I did try to release the gas pedal slowly and saw lil bit of improvement, but not quite a lot though. And you know if you are conscious of the gas pedal all the time, then thats not called driving. It should be done involuntarily in my opinion, without worrying about it.Anyway its for sure is a problem from Toyota and this learning process is just to comfort ourselves i guess.
 
Anyway i will ask the dealer if the TSB has had any success in the last 3 weeks. Based on which i will proceed with the fix. I shall keep you posted.
 
Thank you again.
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Re: SOLUTION FOUND???? [dezral] by mcase2
Aug 02, 2008 (3:02 am)
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Replying to: dezral (Jul 31, 2008 5:45 pm)

Without reading any documents you may have signed I cannot say if the arbitration was binding. From here it sounds like you were involved in an "in house" Toyota arbitration process that did not involve the courts. If you did not specifically sign away your option to go to court this process probably is not legally binding. At this point having a lawyer you know and trust read what you agreed to and review any documents you signed in this process might not be a bad idea. You need to know where you stand and this would be the first step.
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I had the T-SB-0068-08 performed by adamw812
Aug 05, 2008 (5:06 pm)
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I had Toyota perform the T-SB-0068-08 Enhnacement to Shifting Performance. The Car seems to be much more ready to downshift when making a turn. I have had the car back for one day, but it definitely seems to be markedly improved and a worthwhile update. I will post more as I drive the car more. I am very glad I had it done.
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Re: I had the T-SB-0068-08 performed [adamw812] by kiawah
Aug 05, 2008 (5:23 pm)
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Replying to: adamw812 (Aug 05, 2008 5:06 pm)

What year Camry 4 cylinder do you have, and had you previously put on one of the earlier 2 TSB's? (They were out in the 2007 timeframe)
#118 of 165
Re: I had the T-SB-0068-08 performed [kiawah] by adamw812
Aug 05, 2008 (10:26 pm)
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Replying to: kiawah (Aug 05, 2008 5:23 pm)

it is a 2008, with a September 2007 production date
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Buzz noise at around 30 mph by james108
Sep 11, 2008 (7:45 am)
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Hi, I have my 2009 Camry LE V6 for 2 months, recently I notice a small buzz sound beneath the dash when cruising at around 30 mph. Have any one experienced the same problem? The buzz noise is on and off in the speed range of 25-35 mph. Thanks.
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08 camry 4cyl auto test drive disaster by steven39
Sep 15, 2008 (9:54 am)
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hello folks,i recently went to test drive a 08 camry LE with auto and 4cyl that my local toyota dealership was offering a sale on..i have been reading about all of the problems that people are haveing with the vibrations and the slugish tranmission shifting so i took the camry on a nice long test drive with the salesmen by my side..as we got into the car i asked him if some of the issues that have been happening with the camry such as the tranny issues,vibrations at 40 mph,and sluggish engine performence have been corrected by toyota and he said oh yes they have been all corected begining with the 08 model year..he said that those issues were with the 07 camry models and not to worry.anyway,as we got going with the test drive i immiedietly noticed the tranny problem and how sluggish the car was.the salesmen was embarresed to say the least and i also felt the car vibrating when i got to about 45 mph..he suggested that i go on the highway but this test drive was over for me as far as i was concerned and i returned to the dealership..i think it's a discrace that toyota has still not addresed these issues with the camry and thank god i test drove the car before i purchased it unlike some other camry owners..live and learn i guess..

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